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[73.19.52.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r81sm6827949pfi.61.2017.06.20.11.28.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:28:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" Message-Id: <3C040459-025D-4BB2-A4AC-8D180A95322B@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2DEE9AA7-ECEE-4EC5-8657-E6F35656C856"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: rtools were deemed almost unused 15 years ago... Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:28:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20170620110644.lkdw2s7jnfckapnl@roberto-aw.eurocontrol.fr> Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org To: Ollivier Robert References: <20170620110644.lkdw2s7jnfckapnl@roberto-aw.eurocontrol.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:28:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2DEE9AA7-ECEE-4EC5-8657-E6F35656C856 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:06 AM, Ollivier Robert = wrote: >=20 > According to Jeremie Le Hen on Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25:46PM +0200: >> Therefore, I hereby propose to remove rtools from the base system. I >> acknowledge this will likely cause troubles for a handful of people >> who are still relying on it for good or bad reasons. But the flipside >> is that the attack surface of millions of FreeBSD installed out there >> will be reduced. >>=20 >> The proposed roadmap is: >> - disable from the build on head and let it soak for one month >> - remove rtools from the base. >>=20 >> What do you guys think? Any preferred color for the bikeshed? :) >=20 > Go for it. rsh, etc doesn=E2=80=99t live in ports, and there are viable = uses for it still, even though this day in age they=E2=80=99re greatly = reduced. - I=E2=80=99ll submit a new port for those that still need it. - I=E2=80=99ll disable it in base; add a nice comment noting = that it=E2=80=99s available in ports. -> Best case scenario, we can remove rsh from base before 12.0. Thanks! -Ngie --Apple-Mail=_2DEE9AA7-ECEE-4EC5-8657-E6F35656C856 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJZSWlBAAoJEPWDqSZpMIYVCFAQAMmbG9JqokjZcryICJBGb4T/ jgvTGIjbPLzd3OTy24wTlbo0Hv3NsJ20WLvwI9pYt910uMYTIPqICxctXSv5Bgw4 3NIC9PTCc9y3m3o8rGrYdIoQeJ/JZoJhaj+iL590PM0/vAG9qasK4MrP3YkVKLQk FATrfxoG+Uq87Zm1G45gW3UIbh7Gx1A81HuF8EckH6LlTabLQYabxQQ1IqY9So3C jTmdc6Cg+0QQ+OmN+XrG17UnHezHY+LPhs1D+Q3G/GkGgbHm8qsNlN/dVqa6loiA HWfEKcON6t62IP1kAJSGZI/QDmo3DMtFkcTGWDwMa/+SXPgq62QzfV4A/vm9960r rcNtDdGsSIUJ9NEBSrdzukRoOIlXBKTwQfrVnEjumGK1XwG5GKi6VQSg0TtF2hek gHscKXwNHhr8wCYfzUYOCxkX0QokBLbOUnyvgiRLYH9PUnRDErRefn4mH24h3dhD rlknBezK1q/EZygNpha4gKZDsWIPkFvv59DgPQP+1yHnQraVDyMhQZHbkJXZZjzY XbzJt8y4ChtOci1i2EGJ+reBLYUPbEN6M50myf3QhYvxdUWAiMzgfkCBwqmWlrmb mLurQoG7MZCyKGvBilWTaJn0wqWW3x58mEvZiaiIMVWtqoMext0Y5xmayOu+nzTg Lg5gh3inU2mCv09kFGIa =cjh5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_2DEE9AA7-ECEE-4EC5-8657-E6F35656C856--