From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 5 14:17:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40CD9E85 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2014 14:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22c.google.com (mail-wg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7C72313 for ; Sat, 5 Apr 2014 14:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id m15so4704683wgh.15 for ; Sat, 05 Apr 2014 07:17:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type; bh=4IiCF+3iBtLKdWjgCQlGg2CEumJvACIyOb+zFB0hO9c=; b=x6MxpXXC+MqrnaH4ceS3Oxl3492Zze5l5QoUx8U/Dfnxx6GkEJxKVwzxaMzHsgfkRv d6RocXdMKKtSruVaDuZE3NSTEs1Ix+mMV16kS2jnzGCzvBohY09WROxqISOhyJ/YQZkW VncgnO3wTOgDfb/mOE0qrigaYTUGkawal4maqS9Q79vtQjxetIMnBqI63fGvj0X3mOC5 6fPkymb2YuqzeIVdg+OmPWrjkADpn0FygzjkPXmg++ZQCnqTK8Ne/iTVwScWIbqSF6Db VEcz6kvP2l+y+Rz6PDGJvg8FOAbieDHmHhh4j/eKwiubtL79TIZx/CSnpRVWCG8QXTM5 /T+A== X-Received: by 10.194.191.195 with SMTP id ha3mr27637599wjc.69.1396707431981; Sat, 05 Apr 2014 07:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debian.gmail.org ([77.96.239.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c7sm17179574wjf.19.2014.04.05.07.17.08 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 05 Apr 2014 07:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 15:16:46 +0100 From: Graham Todd To: illoai@gmail.com Subject: Re: Richard Stallman remains hypocritical liar? Message-ID: <20140405151646.0da3c0ad@debian.gmail.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/EdthEX2=o2C9HdUp4x5zv1D"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2014 14:17:14 -0000 --Sig_/EdthEX2=o2C9HdUp4x5zv1D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Stallman a Marxist? I don't think so: I believe that he's an anarchist. As you say, the difference might not be obvious to everybody who club them all as "reds", but anarchism (the name of their philosophy - note their philosophy is NOT anarchy equating to chaos) promotes individual and civic freedom. I found a document in my Debian distro giving a description of anarchism, and you might like to look it up. To get another view, see the essay by Jamie Poole, "To anarchism we must go" at: http://www.anarchism.net/anarchism_toanarchismwemustgo.htm I have not heard him speak on the subject of anarchism, but I have heard Richard Stallman espouse the subject of Free Software and the freedoms it gives us. Indeed his reason for starting the Free Software Movement was to maximise personal freedom, not for making any financial gain. This fits in easily with anarchist principles, so I believe him to be an anarchist. I'm not sure if you are a citizen of the United States, but you might like to look up The Industrial Workers of The World -the IWW or 'Wobblies'. They still exist,and are a world-wide movement now. The Preamble to its Constitution contains the most crystallised wording of anarcho-syndacalism I have seen and you might want to look for that,too, as evidence of a different type of anarchism that exists. The internet, with its decentralised structure and with its empowerment of the individual,is an anarchist structure writ large, despite the fact that some people regard it a structure for e-commerce. In defence of the internet and his championing of free software shows him to be a defender of freedom and free software, and not a hypocritical liar. Or perhaps I've misunderstood what you call a lie? --Graham Todd --Sig_/EdthEX2=o2C9HdUp4x5zv1D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlNAEE4ACgkQCi6s3a408wkg9QCglsazWlnPx3FonClASaTLM7aV uYsAoLLCoG4U/Gbb7WUqgB0BkrO8bDkB =qoYc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/EdthEX2=o2C9HdUp4x5zv1D--