From owner-freebsd-current Tue Feb 19 12:40:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from msp-26-175-126.mn.rr.com (msp-26-175-126.mn.rr.com [24.26.175.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B2C37B400 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ACHIWERE ([192.168.0.10]) by msp-26-175-126.mn.rr.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1JKhDV04064 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:43:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from smokeyser@msp-26-175-126.mn.rr.com) From: "Smokey DeWeed" To: Subject: RE: more -current testers Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:40:31 -0600 Message-ID: <001601c1b985$b27a6840$0a00a8c0@ACHIWERE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020219193211.GA1785@raggedclown.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I run FreeBSD both at home and at work and I'd be happy to provide feedback on any bugs I come across. Your article on debugging and submitting a "proper" bug report would be helpful in making sure that any info I submit is useful. And I'm sure that there's a thousand others reading this and thinking the same thing. Keep up the good work. :) On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more > -current testers. > > We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very > sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit > patches to fix all their issues. I would guess that we all also agree > that that's not going to happen. > > It seems that the best we can hope for is to educate some of the > braver users who are ready to take the next step and are willing to > donate some time to us. > > I'm considering doing a series of articles on testing FreeBSD-current, > including: setting up for kernel dumps, what to type at the debugger > prompt after a crash, filing a decent bug report, what to expect from > -current, and so on. I would also make it clear when to not bother > filing a bug report (i.e., "You crashed, but had no WITNESS? Sorry, > enable WITNESS & try again."). This would be (I suspect) three > articles, running about a month and a half. > > The last time I checked, I get 12-15 thousand readers for each > article. One half of one percent uptake would (hopefully) be quite a > few bug reports. > > My question to the community is: is it too early to do this? If I > start now, the articles would probably appear April-May. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message