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Date:      Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:40:31 -0600
From:      "Smokey DeWeed" <smokeyser@msp-26-175-126.mn.rr.com>
To:        <Current@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   RE: more -current testers
Message-ID:  <001601c1b985$b27a6840$0a00a8c0@ACHIWERE>
In-Reply-To: <20020219193211.GA1785@raggedclown.net>

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	I run FreeBSD both at home and at work and I'd be happy to
provide feedback on any bugs I come across.  Your article on debugging
and submitting a "proper" bug report would be helpful in making sure
that any info I submit is useful.  And I'm sure that there's a thousand
others reading this and thinking the same thing.  Keep up the good work.
:)


On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote:
> I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more
> -current testers.
> 
> We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very
> sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit
> patches to fix all their issues.  I would guess that we all also agree
> that that's not going to happen.
> 
> It seems that the best we can hope for is to educate some of the
> braver users who are ready to take the next step and are willing to
> donate some time to us.
> 
> I'm considering doing a series of articles on testing FreeBSD-current,
> including: setting up for kernel dumps, what to type at the debugger
> prompt after a crash, filing a decent bug report, what to expect from
> -current, and so on.  I would also make it clear when to not bother
> filing a bug report (i.e., "You crashed, but had no WITNESS?  Sorry,
> enable WITNESS & try again."). This would be (I suspect) three
> articles, running about a month and a half.
> 
> The last time I checked, I get 12-15 thousand readers for each
> article.  One half of one percent uptake would (hopefully) be quite a
> few bug reports.
> 
> My question to the community is: is it too early to do this?  If I
> start now, the articles would probably appear April-May.



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