From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 18 17:11:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B17D16A41F; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:11:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8835043D45; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:11:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9IHBalU094466; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j9IHBabZ094465; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:11:35 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20051018171135.GA94386@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <435473D3.8080209@freebsd.org> <20051018152200.GD84920@dragon.NUXI.org> <200510181243.54588.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200510181243.54588.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Daniel Eischen , cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/amd64/amd64 identcpu.c src/sys/i386/i386 identcpu.c X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:11:37 -0000 On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 12:43:52PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Tuesday 18 October 2005 11:22 am, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 12:50:30AM -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Colin Percival wrote: > > > > David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > CPU: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 280 (2392.92-MHz K8-class > > > ^^^^ > > ... > > > > This may be clear to *you*, but five years from now I'm sure that *I* > > > > won't be able to remember what the AMD Opteron 280 is. > > > > > > Am I missing something? Would it still say "Dual" if it were not a > > > dual core? > > > > No it would not. I'm not sure what this added: > > CPU: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 280 (2394.81-MHz K8-class > > .. > > Cores per package: 2 > > Just because your employer formats brand info strings that way doesn't mean > other chip manufacturers will. FreeBSD as a project does not just run on > your employer's products, so we can't really make assumptions about the > layout of description strings that are free-form and vary from vendor to > vendor. By obtaining the actual values from registers and outputting them in > a vendor-neutral way, FreeBSD as a project can provide this info to our users > across architectures (i386 and amd64) and across vendors (AMD and Intel) in a > uniform way. This is much more user friendly. *sigh* This has become useless. Please put it under verboseboot or turn it into something truly useful. Right now it is simply a waste of dmesg space. As written it does not tell you the kernel's POV. As written it doesn't accurately document the physical HW. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)