Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 10:25:24 -0500 From: JD Arnold <jdarnold@buddydog.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which is the best open source C/C++ IDE out there? Message-ID: <dptv94$7ft$1@sea.gmane.org> In-Reply-To: <20060109140254.92455.qmail@web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <666bdb140601081330m3b394a02v@mail.gmail.com> <20060109140254.92455.qmail@web33306.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Danial Thom wrote: > > --- Vladimir Tsvetkov <npacemo@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> This is obviously a trick question, because >> real >>> programmers don't use IDEs. Case Closed. >> I'm not a real programmer, but UNIX is a great >> developer environment. >> It's a tool based environment. >> Small tools, strong cohesion in what they are >> designed for, easy ways >> to combine them to form more complex tasks. >> Good documentation too. >> Actually you don't need anything else, you >> don't need a colourfull IDE. But... >> Maybe only few, really exceptional people can >> benefit and grok the >> power of this kind of environments. >> To me the ideal "IDE" is actually a toolkit: >> - Source Editor, preferably with a object >> browser or other kind of a >> source browser. An autocomplete functionallity >> could increase >> productivity too - this could increase quality >> if we measure quality >> of code by the low number of syntax mistakes, >> but this could also be a >> threat to quality letting the programmer write >> without reading >> carefully what is written - code bloating. >> - Compiler with a debugger. We must discuss >> about the pros. and cons. >> of a grafic debugger versus a text-mode >> debugger. The things are >> getting really messy when it comes up to >> debugging multithreading code >> and I really don't know what is the ultimate >> tool for this task. >> - A build tool. Ant or make will suffice. >> - Source control tools. CVS, SVN etc. >> - Documentation tools. POD, Doxygen, Javadoc or >> something else. >> - Unit testing framework. This is not always a >> tool. This could be a >> language extension, or a testing API. >> - Other tools. >> >> You don't need to put everything together in a >> single swissknife-tool, >> but this could be convenient in some cases. >> >> IDE vs. Toolbased Environments ??? >> >> Which is more productive and how to measure >> productiveness? >> >> Best Regards, >> Vladimir Tsvetkov > > Tools, schmools. vi and cc work for me. > > I do admit that I wish someone would get make to > accept spaces instead of the (damn) tab. I think > its time for that :) That's why you should graduate to Emacs - with the makefile syntax highlighting, you'll at least see the differences between tabs and spaces before getting into trouble due to bad whitespacing!-) -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:jdarnold@buddydog.org) Daemon Dancing in the Dark, a FreeBSD weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ UNIX is user-friendly. It's just a bit picky about who its friends are.
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