From nobody Thu Aug 28 15:01:08 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cCPkd5Ntdz668Nn for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2025 15:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@walstatt-de.de) Received: from smtp6.goneo.de (smtp6.goneo.de [IPv6:2001:1640:5::8:31]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cCPkR4YKLz44VV for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2025 15:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@walstatt-de.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=walstatt-de.de header.s=DKIM001 header.b=H1xfTDpf; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@walstatt-de.de designates 2001:1640:5::8:31 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@walstatt-de.de Received: from hub1.goneo.de (hub1.goneo.de [IPv6:2001:1640:5::8:52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp6.goneo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C26EE240EE1 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:01:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hub1.goneo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub1.goneo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 303772400FE for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:01:41 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=walstatt-de.de; s=DKIM001; t=1756393301; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=ngyveuQng58HQZMUGVg8KauYAvcH4hm1/s38u+TGn1U=; b=H1xfTDpfHEg9mjwyoUZBvB/vLvqS/2S0zZ2qKBJNQ1AKiPU8OEQMYlWKEExpzTUPgaizdi kXX2myQ1260BgWiW1CvnXYltGycPkE9gZzgbFlbpH9HPNKADITMSo6cGUOApM4K8oyjNPd W16dUBVNBoE1sGJTuTYiVUZ08gTDswXcX2eHTFL0ejj7V1XPsfwJ9SndGbSDIzB6f9FmCq oZ6r+/p/wE4Pb/HyossZCmiz4JkSmTCxjZXu+QdVMLfiyRNrIBnVO5en6GB0LyzbvIxMoo 7ZXZxVKuITUva75d9bD5R5gl1525QGDLkg1GWp9hEUhg3ymCW7b4JUxWkCfVCg== Received: from thor.sb211.local (dynamic-2a02-3100-18cc-2b02-c740-8221-446e-f214.310.pool.telefonica.de [IPv6:2a02:3100:18cc:2b02:c740:8221:446e:f214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by hub1.goneo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1617824025B for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:01:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 17:01:08 +0200 From: A FreeBSD User To: FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: CURRENT: bad performance in LibreWolf, Firefox, mplayer Message-ID: <20250828165246.5fed81aa@thor.sb211.local> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/=7_mcpodINe2dlwGz7oCf6c"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Rspamd-UID: 9f504e X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.60 / 15.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:1640:5::8:0/112]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[walstatt-de.de:s=DKIM001]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN_FAIL(0.00)[1.3.0.0.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.5.0.0.0.0.4.6.1.1.0.0.2.asn6.rspamd.com:server fail]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RSPAMD_URIBL_FAIL(0.00)[walstatt-de.de:query timed out]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[walstatt-de.de]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[walstatt-de.de:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cCPkR4YKLz44VV --Sig_/=7_mcpodINe2dlwGz7oCf6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, running CURRENT (FreeBSD 15.0-PRERELEASE #3 master-n279925-393356f25fb8: Th= u Aug 28 06:53:41 CEST 2025 amd64) on a moderat modern hardware (AMD based), I whitness some = very strange and nasty performance issues with the usage of certain "day-to -day" applicatio= ns, like Firefox, LibreWolf, mplayer. CPU is a current AMD Ryzen (no 3D cache!), 96 GB RAM, GPU is a nVida RX 506= 0 - with recent nvidia-driver-580.76.05.1500063 driver version due to issues with the 570 s= eries in ports tree. X11 window manager is x11-wm/windowmaker. All ports are custom compil= ed and has been recently recompiled - these details just for the record. The phenomenon is when starting Firefox and/or Librewolf, these programs ar= e almost unusable. Clicking on menus produce drop down artefacts in the shape of the drop-dow= n-menu when moving the window. Content of the interior does not change and is frozen and/or do= esn't get refreshed. After several long minutes this misbehaviour seems to mitigate a= nd the program seems mor responsive. When it comes to video streams, like youtube, the mes= s is back: streams are slowed down a way its like a torture watching them. Same with videos in= mplayer: playing a video we made a couple of years ago with Blender (.mkv, .avi) are in slow m= otion. From time to time I try my best with warzone2100 - the game also indicates sometimes whi= le in game a sudden jumpy behaviour or at the beginning. It seems erratic when and how such "ju= mpiness" occurs.=20 While those applications show up harsh and serious performance problems, th= e OS itself and even the X11 windowmaker window system do not indicate any flaw in performa= nce penalties, which surprises me. So, I susepct something wrong with either the video subsystem (as mentioned= initially, the in-ports-tree driver nvidia 570 shows some similar problems which could be = mitigated by using the most recent one provided by nvidia, version 580.76.05). I tried to recompile every single port from scratch due to suspect some ABI= issues somewhere since some critical changes in FreeBSD's core, but this approach didn't hel= p much. Does anybody else have such problems on the recent CURRENT system and is th= is well-known (and so the hope for a solution does not die early) or is this problem sticky wi= th me alone? Thanks for the patience, oh --=20 A FreeBSD user --Sig_/=7_mcpodINe2dlwGz7oCf6c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRQheDybVktG5eW/1Kxzvs8OqokrwUCaLBvTwAKCRCxzvs8Oqok r+g6AQCVLOpZJua7Rz8dMZzNPSoueCRsfuaqgf6tSBXKWA9lGwEAlCkNGo3RfvNP yrahCvhKq8LnZh8t+Umz1oT7ndn5Pgo= =7L5Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/=7_mcpodINe2dlwGz7oCf6c--