From owner-freebsd-bugs Tue Jan 8 5:50: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFE237B41C for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 05:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g08Do2n62796; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 05:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 05:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201081350.g08Do2n62796@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: "f.johan.beisser" Subject: Re: misc/33595: libc breaking in -STABLE Reply-To: "f.johan.beisser" Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR misc/33595; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "f.johan.beisser" To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: misc/33595: libc breaking in -STABLE Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 05:40:28 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > it seems that it would be a bit odd to not be able to rebuild a small > > section (such as libc) alone, should it need replacement or an upgrade. > > You're confusing two different issues. > > You can build libc standalone, possibly with local modifications, so > long as you're building it on a synchronized system. > > You can upgrade your system using a ''make world'', thus acquiring such > a "synchronized system". i know this, but recently having patched gcc with the "stack-protector" made me wish to test a build on *part* of the base system, without rebuilding all of the userland or kernel. libc was one of the recommended pieces to rebuild. simply, i was "just following instructions". > The fact that you thought you'd be able to build a standalone version of > libc that is not synchronized with the system suggests that you haven't > understood the FreeBSD operating system, which provides a tightly > coupled userland and kernel. This is very different from Linux, where > there's a tendency to mix and match bits and pieces. since you don't know me, i won't take offence to the linux reference (i've not really touched/admin'd any linux machines since about 97, and there've been worlds of changes since then from what i've heard and read) or to the lack of knowledge about FreeBSD. granted, doing a buildworld to rebuild the entire base system is a bit better of a habit (it's what i ususally do), rebuilding everything to test a "modified" compiler is a bit excessive. anyhow, consider the bug withdrawn, and set the bit to closed/disproved. thanks for the extra info, -- johan -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan@caustic.org "John Ashcroft is really just the reanimated corpse of J. Edgar Hoover." -- Tim Triche To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message