From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jun 23 15:04:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18482 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:04:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18426 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 15:03:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id RAA06752; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:03:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Amancio Hasty , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: option MROUTING In-Reply-To: <7081.898634869@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to backup the MBONE feed statement jordan made about ISP's and network providers, trying to get an MBONE here in kansas, usually results in a 2 hours long phone chase between "network engineers" who have to be told WHAT the MBONE is, then they have to check with their supreme on high 400K dollar a year bosses just to call you back and tell you that yes indeed they do offer ISDN video conferencing. Which of course is not what you originally asked for but it seems that is all they can comprehend. You could slap a nice pretty GUI on all the config tools for mbone on unix you want, but until you find a provider who carries MBONE feeds, let alone even remotely knows what the MBONE is, it isnt going to do you much good. I have tried sprint, mci, and feist here and not one engineer knew the difference between the MBONE and a video conferencing ISDN solution. No matter how many times you explain it etc.. I have given up trying to make use of the MBONE here. Maybe ill just get one of those elite ISDN video conferencing feeds they seem to know so much about :-) Chris -- "Linux... The choice of a GNUtered generation." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message