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Date:      Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:05:15 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 64-bit linux emulation
Message-ID:  <36947.128.135.70.2.1437091515.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu>
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On Thu, July 16, 2015 6:20 pm, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
> On 07/16/15 16:03, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Thu, July 16, 2015 2:39 pm, Warren Block wrote:
>>> >On Thu, 16 Jul 2015, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>>> >
>>>> >>On 07/16/15 13:09, Lacey Powers wrote:
>>>>> >>>On 07/16/2015 08:59 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>How is progress on this ? Handbook still says linux 64-bit
>>>>>> binaries
>>>>>> >>>>not
>>>>>> >>>>supported, hopefully out of date:-)  ....
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Hello William,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Looks like it's coming along, according to this Quarterly Report:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2014-10-2014-12.html#Linux-Emulation-Layer,-the-Linuxulator
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>And there are commits referencing the "64-bit Linuxulator" in
svn,
>>>>> so
>>>>> >>>you
>>>>> >>>might have some support in 11-CURRENT?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>https://reviews.freebsd.org/search/query/N4Nlb6bNTrwA/#R
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Hope that helps answer your question. =)
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Regards,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Lacey
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Hmmmmm .... well, sorta, I presume they would be back-ported to
>>>> 9.3R,
>>>> >>since
>>>> >>that's what I'm running ....
>>> >
>>> >VirtualBox works well on 10-STABLE, provided you accept the default
virtual hardware.  On 10.1, too, I think.
>> I confirm VirtualBox works perfectly on FreeBSD 10.1. As a matter of fact
>> I never had problems with it; used on 9.3, 10.0, 10.1 (guest systems:
Windows XP, 7, FreeBSD 8, 9, 10, CentOS 5, 6, 7, Fedora 5, 13, 16, 20,
Ubuntu 10, 14, OpenBSD 4.9, Debian 7, ReactOS,... - list is not
complete)

>
> Hmmmmm .... Could well have been pilot error on my end, certainly
wouldn't be the 1st time :-/. I *think* I took all defaults except for
HDD size & amount of RAM assigned, but nothing else. I posted some
questions back in that time frame (Fall 2014), but no resolution. I'll
look at it again, it would be *sweet* if it would work fairly seamlessly
w/ 32-bit WinXP, 64-bit Win7, maybe some 64-SuSE LTS ....
>

I probably should say something about the box I've listed these host
systems and vbox guest systems I run on (I hope, it may give you some
clues about what happened in your case):

root@point:~ # sysctl -a | egrep -i 'hw.machine|hw.model|hw.ncpu'
hw.machine: amd64
hw.model: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2378
hw.ncpu: 8
hw.machine_arch: amd64

root@point:~ # sysctl -a | egrep -i 'memory'
Virtual Memory:		(Total: 18894936K Active: 18819128K)
Real Memory:		(Total: 2607240K Active: 2394088K)
Shared Virtual Memory:	(Total: 259468K Active: 242368K)
Shared Real Memory:	(Total: 52344K Active: 51300K)
Free Memory:	10305512K
hw.cbb.start_memory: 2281701376
p1003_1b.memory_protection: 0
p1003_1b.shared_memory_objects: 200112

root@point:~ # uname -a
FreeBSD point.uchicago.edu 10.1-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p9 #2
r282515: Wed May  6 11:00:31 CDT 2015
valeri@point.uchicago.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

 (this same box run earlier 9.3 and 10.0 RELEASE)

This box has 3ware 9750 RAID controller with 8 drives in RAID-6
configuration, with cache it is fast enough, still I never run more that 3
different virtual machines simultaneously, 1 or 2 usually. (otherwise
storage throughput may become bothleneck I think). VMs usually have rather
generic amount of RAM: 2GB or 1GB, only Windows7 has 8GB; whatever I run,
host system definitely has more than 2GB left for itself (not that I mean
to say it needs this amount). Originally (on 9.3 and 10.0) I was building
vbox from port; on 10.1 (or at some point on 10.0) I have it installed
using pkg. Also, the box has pretty good dual socket tyan systemboard:
S3992 if my memory doesn't fail me. And RAM is from good source, never had
problems with their ram. (Not that I love myself this much, just when my
workstation died I decided not to spend money on replacement, but put in
the box spare parts I had on the shelf for servers... if one of them is
needed for a server, there goes my workstation... pretty noisy beast too).

BTW, if any system crashes my first suspect would be RAM, - but it's
probably just me: I usually run RELEASE, nothing experimental.

I hope, this helps.

Valeri

>
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Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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