From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 14:45:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A089106566B; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lstewart@freebsd.org) Received: from lauren.room52.net (lauren.room52.net [210.50.193.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3F18FC19; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lstewart1.loshell.room52.net (ppp59-167-184-191.static.internode.on.net [59.167.184.191]) by lauren.room52.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0ACB17E820; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:45:52 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <50339F1F.3040802@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:45:51 +1000 From: Lawrence Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120613 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Baptiste Daroussin References: <20120820194313.GC23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20120820232147.GD23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <5033253D.4060807@FreeBSD.org> <20120821070436.GE23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20120821070436.GE23607@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lauren.room52.net Cc: Matthew Seaman , vmagerya@gmail.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng 1.0 release schedule, and HEAD switch to pkgng by default schedule X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:45:54 -0000 On 08/21/12 17:04, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 07:05:49AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 21/08/2012 00:21, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:09:46AM +0300, Vitaly Magerya wrote: >>>> Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>>> Please [...] ask question about pkgng [...] >>>> >>>> What would be the best practice of mixing ports with packages? >>>> >>>> The use case I have in mind is compiling Xorg ports locally >>>> WITH_NEW_XORG and WITH_KMS, and using packages from >>>> pkgbeta.freebsd.org for everything else. Is there some mixture of pkg >>>> and portmaster flags that allows this kind of setup? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> There is no best practice for that unfortunatly, (as actually) the best for you >>> is maybe to build your own pkgng repostories? >>> http://wiki.freebsd.org/PkgPrimer#Using_poudriere for example? >>> >>> We are open to suggestion here :) >> >> At the moment, it is about as tricky as mixing locally compiled ports >> with pkg_tools packages: ie. it might work, or it might leave you a >> quivering, sobbing mess lost in a pit of dark despair. >> >> One thing that should help is a proposal to record metadata like the SVN >> revision number of the ports tree used to build repository packages into >> the repository catalogue (repo.sqlite), so users can in principle check >> out the same revision locally to build their own ports. Unfortunately >> no one has written that yet, and its probably too late for it to make it >> into release-1.0. >> > > yes but it should definitly find its way to 1.1! Agreed, though ultimately we want to move to making mixing of ports & pkgs idiot-proof - something I suspect we're in better shape to do with pkgng. As a recently minted roadtester of pkgng and wanting to do the same as Vitaly without setting up Poudriere, I had to reverse engineer the ports tree svn revision to make sure I could mix and match from pkgbeta and stuff I built locally via ports with WITH_NEW_XORG and WITH_KMS. This becomes more annoying to manage going forward. So far I'm enjoying my pkgng experience for the most part and wish to thank all those involved in getting it to this stage. Cheers, Lawrence