From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:46:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121FD16A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:46:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE6543D58 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:46:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from ringworm.mechee.com ([4.27.46.32])0.04 <0IDB00BEP5OSX1A0@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:46:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by ringworm.mechee.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AFF8F2CE75B; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:46:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:46:02 -0800 From: "Michael C. Shultz" In-reply-to: <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> To: Chris Hodgins , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <200503131246.03193.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:46:05 -0000 On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:38 pm, you wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: > >>If I just do: > >> > >>cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u > >> > >>Do I need portupgrade at all then? > >> > >>Thanks. > > > > Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is > > a nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others so > > I keep portupgrade around just the same. > > > > -Mike > > How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount of > time as portupgrade for each run? > > Chris That is a tough question here is how it tends to work for me: First I run it everyday since I'm developing it I have to know if there is anything changed in ports that is going to cause portmanager to crash. Most days it takes less than an hour, but sometimes when just one lower level port like gettext for example is updated it may take 24 hours to finish. I'm using a 1ghz machine with both gnome and kde (all together about 300 installed ports) as an example. Here is exactly how portmanager works: First dependent ports that are out of date are upgraded, then everything that depends on them are upgraded. portupgrade does not work this same way so the time comparison is very tough to predict. -Mike