From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 15 08:05:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B1516A404 for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E985513C4CC for ; Tue, 15 May 2007 08:05:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l4F859RC017494 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 15 May 2007 01:05:09 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.45] (c-67-174-148-212.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.174.148.212]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l4F857Op012961 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 May 2007 01:05:08 -0700 Message-ID: <464969B3.3050306@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 01:05:07 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Evans References: <20070513040651.GB1017@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> <4647F627.7020408@u.washington.edu> <20070514202922.GF1017@dwpc.dwlabs.ca> <4649426F.8050601@u.washington.edu> <1179214317.1791.38.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1179214317.1791.38.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.1.294258, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.5.15.5234 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SoC X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 08:05:10 -0000 Tom Evans wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 22:17 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> Ruby's nice, but it's built on Perl so I have suspicions on its overall >> usability / speed given my experience with Perl over the past 4 months >> daily for work :(.. Ruby's just the new big thing for programming >> languages, so everyone's into it. Kind of like how Java was compared to >> C/C++ a few years back. But once everything dies down people will >> realize that they'll still have to program in C/C++/Perl for real-world >> applications. >> >> Python seems better than Ruby from what I can see, but I really don't >> like the mandatory indentation thing. Ew.. >> > > Rubies are better Perls. That's the only connection between the two. One > day, a Japanese programmer got fed up with Perl, and wrote a better > language (for varying meanings of better). > > Its not based or built on Perl in any respect. > > Python and Ruby both have the same targets; to speed development time > and increase programmer productivity. But one must make a Perl before one can make a Ruby. Maybe that was what I was trying to aim for. Ruby's nice, but it seems like it's going to be a bit passe in a few years like Java was for compilable / interpretable languages. -Garrett