From owner-freebsd-java Thu Feb 6 16:21:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F78837B401; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:21:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [193.124.215.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B72743F85; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:21:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from drweb by mail.nsu.ru with drweb-scanned (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18gwFp-0002lV-00; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 06:20:29 +0600 Received: from iclub.nsu.ru ([193.124.215.97] ident=root) by mail.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18gwFn-0002jc-00; Fri, 07 Feb 2003 06:20:27 +0600 Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (fjoe@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h170KGRV047046; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:20:17 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: (from fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h170KEU1047044; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:20:14 +0600 (NS) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 06:20:13 +0600 From: Max Khon <fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru> To: Marc van Kempen <marc@bowtie.nl> Cc: Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>, John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>, "John L. Utz III" <john@utzweb.net>, Brent Verner <brent@rcfile.org>, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, rwatson@freesbsd.org, calvin.austin@sun.com, brian@collab.net, bod@freebsdfoundation.org Subject: Re: patchset 2 report (billh's resignation) Message-ID: <20030207062013.A46600@iclub.nsu.ru> References: <20030206202913.GA2285@gnuppy.monkey.org> <01E2A478-3A25-11D7-8CFD-0003930B8FFA@bowtie.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01E2A478-3A25-11D7-8CFD-0003930B8FFA@bowtie.nl>; from marc@bowtie.nl on Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:47:45PM +0100 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.43 X-Envelope-To: marc@bowtie.nl, billh@gnuppy.monkey.org, jdp@polstra.com, john@utzweb.net, brent@rcfile.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, rwatson@freesbsd.org, calvin.austin@sun.com, brian@collab.net, bod@freebsdfoundation.org Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: <freebsd-java.FreeBSD.ORG> List-Archive: <http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/> (Web Archive) List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=help> (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=subscribe%20freebsd-java> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG?subject=unsubscribe%20freebsd-java> X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, there! On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:47:45PM +0100, Marc van Kempen wrote: > It's almost unbelievable that you didn't research the java project (and > mailing lists) to find out what is going on. Had you done that you > would have quickly realised Bill's role. They asked glewis and nate. Isn't that enough? Someone invested some amount of money and they have given it to Alexey. That's simple. Should they pay something to Greg? He's done tremendous amount of work to make 1.3.1 available on FreeBSD. Or Nate? I do not think that porting 1.1.8 was easy. Or some other developers that contribute to FreeBSD Java Project? If I had spare money that I could spend for such purpose maybe I'd pay Bill. If you have money feel free to send them to Bill. Bill is known to be one of the most active developers of 1.3.1 HotSpot. That's the fact. I highly appreciate his work. But what all you guys are talking about? I'd understand you if it were yours money. But they are not. It is a volunteer project and noone can expect that he will be paid for his job or request the contract if he was not chosen by some investor. /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message