From owner-freebsd-java Tue Mar 24 12:34:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26558 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:34:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26552 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:34:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kelly@plutotech.com) Received: from plutotech.com (tampopo.plutotech.com [206.168.67.161]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27556; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:34:24 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <351818CF.A8E6300C@plutotech.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:34:23 -0700 From: Sean Kelly Organization: Pluto Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christoph Kukulies CC: java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RmiJdbc References: <199803241911.UAA11017@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> <35180BA8.A9E65B6A@plutotech.com> <19980324211103.10524@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Thanks. I got around this by recompiling RmiJdbc explicitly. Took half an hour > on my Amd DX4/133. Not bad! HP/UX's C++ compiler is about as slow, even on faster hardware. > And it is slooow. I mean the data connection. Will perhaps post this in the > newsgroup. With such a slow connection I cannot beat the guys who are > doing Visual Basic programming with direct Win32 apps. Do you have access to other Java-capable machines? It might help if we can determine that it's the RmiJdbc library itself or a particular virtual machine's implementation that's causing it to be so slow. I hate to admit it, but Microsoft's "jview" virtual machine which I downloaded for free from the web site earlier this year is amazingly fast. With Emacs and GNU make available on Windows NT, I'm almost tempted to do Java development in such an environment. The M$ compiler is blazingly fast, too. > 1s pause > URL: jdbc:rmi://pcwin126/jdbc:odbc:rjdemo (before the Connection is made) > 1 min pause > TUPLE: | 1 | Ellison | Larry | larry@oracle.com | (results spit out 10/s) > TUPLE: | 2 | Clark | Jim | jim@netscape.com | I guess I'm so optimistic that people will eventually get JIT and dynamic compilers onto every platform that I stick with the language despite this terrible speed. As Tom Cargill pointed out: * C++ runs about 3 times as fast. * It takes about 1/3 as long to develop in Java. Each company/project will have to determine what's more important. --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message