From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 12:19:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E77D16A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:19:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE5743D3F for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:19:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j1CCJdj34102; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:19:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chris" , "FreeBSD - Questions" Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:19:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <420DF23C.2030008@makeworld.com> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: My thoughts on the list as of late... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:19:42 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 4:11 AM > To: FreeBSD - Questions > Subject: OT: My thoughts on the list as of late... > > > As I read *some* (mainly because there is far too much crap going in, > and not enough decent content coming out) of the postings, I reflect > back on my personal views on mankind as a whole. > > Being of a cynical nature - I tend to look at things with a > "there must > be a reason for this influx of crapoloa in". > > I come up with, divide and conquer. I'm starting to see a pattern in > this list. Far too many users bickering about; > > 1. FreeBSD vs. (insert OS here) > 2. 4.xx is better then 5.xx > 3. Ports are crappy compared to ... > 4. Too many dependencies compared to ... > 5. FreeBSD is on SORBS ... what next? > > Etc. etc. etc. I suppose this could be just one big pissing contest, > then again (being cynical) I tend to think it's a select "group" of > users that are set out to divide and conquer. > > Keep the list in termoil, keep them bashing whom or whatever, > keep them > distracted from the real goals - so that when potential users want to > investigate *BSD, they see the turmoil going on within the *BSD lists. > > Could that be a turn off to the potential new-comer? Very possible. > Am I on target with this cynical point of view? Probably not however, > ask yourself after reading a few weeks of the garbage that seeps into > this list then pose that question again. > > I suppose it is all just coincidence that the list has become > messy over > the last few months. But is seems to me that it has increased more so > since the posting on the FreeBSD site relating to the "Deep Study". > > Again, I'm not pointing fingers. Nor am I creating an innuendo. I'm > simply drawing conclusions based on my view points and I > thought I might > share them in hopes that perhaps some of us will not respond to what I > think are baiting posts. > Good thoughts - now, I have to ask the obligatory "Is there a question somewhere here" before someone else does. You do realize that without asking one, you are participating in the non-question-based discussion you are trying to argue against, right? Ted