From owner-freebsd-virtualization@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 21 14:23:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613B5106564A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baigsabeeh@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00B38FC1C for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baigsabeeh@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o4so4867uge.39 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:23:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vhd50R1wOXtXiSHvqR5xRRuWFe8DNhu+x2NVeGwqoLA=; b=CAMBiHp6qI5y5Zk7VLIIqfTpCemDLW1RbD/j6erryfQbItPTXSo7PBu8v81/V+85yJ FzJSabd2VFe2aj7G/SbUlI7geTCPhLwNkU6qH3qt3yHooPbLMSscapHVQsc/NoPIFs7b ZNUpgBlnFJ3uyzzE9YnlEn4tghJFU5Bl4IZ3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=nbPM7uibTeERzTT3K46yun36Hk0iIFzimAPhUivgsDulVtAVXkwBXUGOKMqkkfJrxO Q5tJbAlv/fO9QS+v28ooSd500w7Ue1kSiPPT/CFHw2TFSesw1e1l12MU6arUVvggckNc 449jSNP+1XQIWVM6kBeUGhOcxZgR+2OXeWg0U= Received: by 10.67.95.4 with SMTP id x4mr1461182ugl.16.1219328621936; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.10.12 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:23:41 -0400 From: "Sabeeh Baig" To: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" , freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org, ady@freebsd.ady.ro In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <78cb3d3f0808202351s2ff2aa04va6ba44cffb28cdf7@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Xen Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:23:44 -0000 I think the developers over at Sun are working on porting VirtualBox to FreeBSD, or at least providing support for it in the open source edition. There are indications on the VBox website, even a page dedicated to progress. It does compile on FreeBSD, but doesn't function because of the lack of a kernel driver. The problem with VirtualBox is that it runs Linux guests well, but all other operating systems are a hit or miss. It itself is somewhat of a work-in-progress. According to that thread, DomU is a starting point that will lead to Dom0 support some time down the road, right? I don't think VMWare will provide a native version for FreeBSD. I don't think they provide anything for other Unixes such as Solaris or AIX, which also have dominance in the server market. VMWare would have considerable potential buyers with those markets, but they don't provide anything for them, so FreeBSD is a long shot. However, that thread on VMWare forums does mention updating the port. How hard would that be to do? Is there a reason that it's essentially been abandoned? Sabeeh On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Adrian Penisoara wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Xen (DomU support) has recently started its life in HEAD (FreeBSD-CURRENT). >> >> Follow this thread under freebsd-hackers: >> >> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?g8962l$q9l$1 >> >> I agree with you that we need more virtualization offerings in order >> to keep the [Free]BSD platform interesting for the users. I guess >> we'll have to push harder vendors like VMware, Sun (xVM/VirtualBox), >> etc. ... >> For VMware support, see also : >> http://www.rofug.ro/article.php/fbsd_as_vmware_host_vote >> >> Regards, >> Adrian. > > I'd not expect anything from VMware in the foreseeable future. > > VirtualBox is open source now but someone with enough knowledge and > time would have to work on porting it to FreeBSD. The hardest part of > the work would be porting the kernel module, I guess. > > (CC to the list, now) > > -- > If you think things can't get worse it's probably only > because you lack sufficient imagination. > -- "UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity." Sabeeh Ahmed Baig