From owner-freebsd-security Thu Dec 4 02:57:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA11434 for security-outgoing; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 02:57:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security) Received: from homeport.org (lighthouse.homeport.org [205.136.65.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA11428 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 02:57:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adam@homeport.org) Received: (adam@localhost) by homeport.org (8.8.5/8.6.9) id FAA20091; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 05:54:36 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Shostack Message-Id: <199712041054.FAA20091@homeport.org> Subject: Re: Possible problem with ftpd 6.00 In-Reply-To: <15222.881232488@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Dec 4, 97 02:48:08 am" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 05:54:35 -0500 (EST) Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: | > If you design systems such that people need to RTFM, your systems will | > fail. The FTP daemon should be re-written so that it doesn't ask for | > a password when its offering anonymous access. (As in http). | | Which would break the heck out of many traditional FTP clients which | expect every user, be it a legit one or an anonymous one, will result | in a password being requested by the ftpd and they'll probably fail | the handshake with your optimization. Nolo contendre. I've long argued that FTP is brain dead and should be replaced. It has a host of misfeatures (the TCP connection back to the client causes uncountable headache for firewall builders, the site exec mechanism is just not a good idea, etc). So please don't read it as a serious suggestion that we change the FTP daemon to fix this problem, but as an appeal to not design protocols that ask for ID for anonymous connection. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume