From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 18 13:49:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A180D37B401 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from fubar.adept.org (fubar.adept.org [63.147.172.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AE543E75 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:49:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by fubar.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B701A1527E; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fubar.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63D215247 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:48:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:48:35 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Hoskins To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS? In-Reply-To: <20021117232748.I23359-100000@hub.org> Message-ID: <20021118134340.H32848-100000@fubar.adept.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > You have missed everything I've written, haven't you? The server(s) > crashing does not bother me ... IMHO, if I can cause it to crash, and > someone can fix it, someone else won't be affected ... Allow me to quote you to you... Which usually isn't required: "Over the past couple of months, I've been starting to wonder if the Quality of FreeBSD's -STABLE branch has been deteriorating, to the point that trusting it for any sort of "loaded server" environment is coming into question ..." and... "Am I expecting too much from FreeBSD-STABLE? Would I fair better if I moved down into RELENG_4_7 and avoided -STABLE altogether?" So I and others have been answering what you asked. Ask other questions if you desire other answers. > What I *want* is some useful mechanism for getting such bugs addressed so > that they don't repeat ... If there's a bug, you check the mailing list, PR database, etc. and file a PR as needed (send-pr(1)). Developers address PRs when they have time. I think send-pr is a useful mechanism. The key is having a process in place that lets you find bugs to report in staging vs. your production environment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message