From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 3 17:58:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA16416A405 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (gerbercreations.com [71.39.140.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60AB13C467 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l13HjbKH069021; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:45:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.13.1/8.13.3/Submit) id l13Hjadu069020; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:45:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:45:35 -0800 From: Greg Lewis To: Julian Stacey Message-ID: <20070203174535.GA68904@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <45C35E40.8090009@math.missouri.edu> <200702031652.l13GqNdZ094789@fire.jhs.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200702031652.l13GqNdZ094789@fire.jhs.private> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: ctm-users@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src-4 X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:58:55 -0000 On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 05:52:23PM +0100, Julian Stacey wrote: > Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > RELENG_4 seems to have reached its end of line. I am contemplating > > closing src-4. What do you people think? (It is actually very little > > effort for me to keep it going, so if anyone has any reason whatsoever > > to keep it open, I will do so - I am only contemplating closing for > > housekeeping reasons.) > > I have various machines (some on 6, but some) stuck on 4: > - 5 doesnt install on some laptops, > - There's an fdisk systctl pain with newer fdisk affecting the > console-less scanner http://www.berklix.com/scanjet/ > - gnokii (nokia coms port) fails on 6, works on 4 (I've largely dropped 5) > - one of my public servers on 4 (that will change) > - I've even got a genuine 386 in tiny chassis runs 4.11 - & > suspicion about lower performance if upgrading to 5 or 6. > > Probably there's lots of boxes & users out there, who/ which still use 4. > They probably just don't correspond with FreeBSD policy makers, > I'd suggest leave 4 CTMs in place for a while, Thanks Stephen. The decision on whether or not to drop src-4 isn't related to whether people still have machines running 4.x (I have a couple as well). The key factor is whether developers are going to continue to commit to the RELENG_4 branch. Now, while I wouldn't rule out the occasional stray commit, I would say that RELENG_4 is pretty much dead. Both the security officer and the ports team just put what should be the final nails in the coffin. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org