From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 17 09:14:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A3316A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:14:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from carver.gumbysoft.com (carver.gumbysoft.com [66.220.23.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6770843F93 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:14:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gumbysoft.com) Received: by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5828D72DB8; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carver.gumbysoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5571372DB5; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:14:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:14:05 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Jos Backus In-Reply-To: <20031116000219.GC98569@lizzy.catnook.com> Message-ID: <20031117090636.H21453@carver.gumbysoft.com> References: <20031115164720.I13393@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> <20031115171702.F13393@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> <20031115150841.I5733@carver.gumbysoft.com> <20031116000219.GC98569@lizzy.catnook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dc still reporting collisions X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:14:08 -0000 On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Jos Backus wrote: > > If its a real hub, hubs aren't full duplex. > > Yeah, I know (believe it or not, but my job description says "Network > Engineer" :-). I don't make assumptions about titles and knowledge levels. :-) > > If its a switch, the switch and PC might not have negoatiated full duplex > > properly. Try unplug/replug the cable, or switch to autoselect. > Thanks for the advice, but this setup has been working unchanged for > years now. All that's really changed is FreeBSD on this machine. It > could be broken hardware though. I'm going to try booting 4.9-RELEASE > and see if I can get FTP to work (5.1-RELEASE just hangs during root > mount). Just because it's been "working forever" doesn't mean it can't fail. Ever heard of power surges? Static discharge? I've seen a tx on a Compaq motherboard go kaput with no intervention whatsoever. It happens. Thankfully collisions are fairly deterministic. -- Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org