From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 23 14:48:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fwi.com (mail.fwi.com [209.84.160.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9233614F34 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from croyle@gelemna.ft-wayne.in.us) Received: from gelemna.ft-wayne.in.us (fw5-40.fwi.com [209.84.173.236]) by mail.fwi.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01750; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from croyle@localhost) by gelemna.ft-wayne.in.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21569; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:47:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from croyle) To: Mark Murray Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups References: <199909231215.OAA85963@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Don Croyle Date: 23 Sep 1999 16:47:42 -0500 Organization: Minimal at best In-Reply-To: Mark Murray's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:15:31 +0200" Message-ID: <86u2olfgg1.fsf@emerson.gelemna.ft-wayne.in.us> Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray writes: [hub.freebsd.org now blocking IP adresses on the DUL] > If you use your ISP's mailer as a "smarthost", you will avoid this > problem. > > Thos of us in the anti-spam community think thsat this is a Good > Thing. That's one way to cut down on support mail from new users, I suppose. This is yet another feel-good measure that will end up doing at least as much harm as good. At a minimum the default freebsd.mc needs something like the attached patch. Something prominent in the FAQ and support for defining SMART_HOST in sysinstall is probably called for as well. --- freebsd.mc.orig Sun Feb 28 14:52:06 1999 +++ freebsd.mc Thu Sep 23 16:31:33 1999 @@ -53,6 +53,8 @@ FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable')dnl dnl Uncomment to activate Realtime Blackhole List (recommended!) dnl FEATURE(rbl)dnl +dnl Dialup users should uncomment and define this appropriately +dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `your.isp.mail.server')dnl FEATURE(local_lmtp)dnl define(`LOCAL_MAILER_FLAGS', LOCAL_MAILER_FLAGS`'P)dnl define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw')dnl -- I've always wanted to be a dilettante, but I've never quite been ready to make the commitment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message