Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 02:41:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Dave Andersen <angio@aros.net> To: davidg@Root.COM, jkh@time.cdrom.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: -Stable, credit card donations to FreeBSD, Inc. Message-ID: <199606080841.CAA31119@terra.aros.net> In-Reply-To: <199606080240.TAA12036@Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Jun 7, 96 07:40:32 pm
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[Trimmed to -stable only, with a CC: to jordan because of the credit card
suggestion]
Two topics: 2) -stable
1) Credit cards for donations - can W.C. help here?
1) Credit cards for donations.
Someone mentioned a few (dozen) messages ago that they weren't aware
of an easy way to donate to FreeBSD, Inc. It's apparent in the web
pages, but frankly, I would bet that human laziness is a large factor
here.
Would it be possible for W.C., Inc. to provide facilities for FreeBSD,
Inc. to accept donations via credit card? Frankly, I'll be the first in
line to send in a $25 donation for one of the servers I have littering
the floor here. (Yes, that's a promise). I think that something along
these lines, if it's not too difficult for W.C. to do, would be a huge
contribution to FreeBSD.
Lo and behold, David Greenman once said:
>
> I really don't think that using a different source control system is going
> to make any difference. The problem we're faced with is with the source trees
> diverging too quickly. No matter what source control system we use, it's still
[...]
> happening in -current. It's possible to manage for about the first 3 months,
> but when the time approaches 1 year (like it is now), it becomes a bloody
> nightmare.
I think this suggests a very logical move for the development of
-stable, then. Create a release, give it two months of development, and
then freeze it and forget about it completely. If the interest is still
there in -stable progressing after that point, create a new -stable off
of the current -current tree. Give it two months where you integrate
_only_ stabalizing/necessary changes and not radical changes to the
source tree, and then freeze it again.
Repeat as necessary. It won't be the same -stable people are used to
now - it will be more of a "stable current". But given that that is, in
effect, the reason people run -stable *anyway*, it would probably be a
fairly popular option. Think of it as "-stable on the edge" (if that's
not an oxymoron... :)
Quite obviously, maintaining -stable (or this discussion!) at the
expense of the future progression of FreeBSD in general is an obviously
stupid thing when viewed in that context. Either get a new paradigm for
-stable, or trash it entirely. Those of us who rely upon it can make do
with patches.
-Dave Andersen
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