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Date:      Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:56:29 -0500
From:      Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        =?iso-8859-1?Q?Patrik_Vesel=EDk?= <veselik@ssakhk.cz>
Subject:   Re: maximum of CPUs
Message-ID:  <20030716105629.A21686@hexapodia.org>
In-Reply-To: <3F14F20D.605BEBD5@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:34:53PM -0700
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:34:53PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Attila Nagy wrote:
> > Andy Isaacson wrote:
> > > I can't tell if you're talking about "supported by FreeBSD" or
> > > "supported running any OS".  Several vendors sell boxes with 32 x86
> > > processors, including IBM (the part that used to be Sequent), Unisys,
> > > and one of the Japanese vendors (NEC or Fujitsu or something like that).
> > > The easiest to find links to is
> > > http://www.unisys.com/products/es7000__servers/hardware/index.htm
> >
> > Even Linux needs a patch for these machines :)
> > http://lists.insecure.org/lists/linux-kernel/2003/Jun/2612.html
> > 
> > AFAIK until this patch, only Windows 2000 was officially supported by
> > Unisys.
> 
> The Sequent Symmetry (i386 based) was the same machine as the
> Unisys 5000/20, which was an OEM version of the box.  I was
> pretty sure that the ES7000/40 was also an OEM Sequent box?
> 
> If so, it may be that if they didn't put too much vendor BIOS
> voodoo in the things, this would also let them run on matching
> Sequent badged hardware... and that's some pretty cool iron,
> even these days.

Hmm, I thought the 7000 series is Unisys-designed, but further research
makes me uncertain.

IBM nee Sequent has a serious effort going to get Linux running well on
their 8- to 32-CPU boxes.  The Unisys effort seems much more
lackadaisical.  IBM is looking to run single large database images (and
whatnot) on theirs, while Unisys seems to be content doing server
consolidation.  So IBM is working on large SMP scaling issues, while
Sequent is just adding the necessary BIOS/APIC/ppb support.

Note that Unisys also supports Linux on their mainframe-hybrid boxes
like the ClearPath:
http://www.unisys.com/products/clearpath__servers/clearpath__plus__os__2200/models.htm

-andy



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