From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue May 13 07:02:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA21200 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from watson.grauel.com (watson.grauel.com [199.233.104.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21195 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 07:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparcmill.grauel.com (sparcmill.grauel.com [199.233.104.34]) by watson.grauel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14277 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by sparcmill.grauel.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA02354; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:01:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:01:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199705131401.JAA02354@sparcmill.grauel.com> From: Richard J Kuhns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: project: editor In-Reply-To: <199705130207.LAA12389@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <199705121827.LAA11691@rah.star-gate.com> <199705130207.LAA12389@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.30 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith writes: > Amancio Hasty stands accused of saying: > > Thats a different story and we should upgrade our tcl . A few interesting > > things are happening at Sun -- webtk , a tk based web server, etc... > > I think that Tcl 8.0 is in the same state as Perl 5 - waiting for the > final release. I can't see any serious value in going to 7.6 given that > it would be outdated so quickly. > > > Amancio > I'd like to stick my $.02 in here. On all of our machines, I explicitly remove the tcl stuff from the system makefiles and roll my own, for several reasons. First, all tcl libraries and support files are then in the same place under FreeBSD as under ESIX and Solaris (which I also have to support for a little while longer). Second, it's a lot easier to install some of the add-on packages (expect, for example). Third, I actually need tcl 7.6 and tk 4.2; well, actually, I just need tcl 7.6 so I can use tk 4.2. I need the grid geometry manager, and it wasn't useable (for me, anyhow) under tk4.1. It's definitely premature to think about adding tcl 8. It's still in alpha, and still missing some features. IIRC, the next alpha/beta is supposed to be out this month, and will include support for namespaces and binary i/o. Just a comment from a (very pleased) supporter of FreeBSD... -- Richard Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Road x319 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 /