From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 6 17:42:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026BC37B443 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 79B2D4B65D; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:41:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:41:35 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Rostislav Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official ISOs Message-ID: <20020207014135.GI7496@freebsdmall.com> References: <000a01c1aeea$21bf25c0$6601010a@pcsysadmin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z4+8/lEcDcG5Ke9S" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000a01c1aeea$21bf25c0$6601010a@pcsysadmin> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --z4+8/lEcDcG5Ke9S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 10:41:53AM +0200, Rostislav wrote: > It's already known fact that some packages (samba for example) are missing in official ISOs. So, is there any plans to reproduce the ISOs or maybe release new 4.5.1 RELEASE version, like 4.1.1 some time before? The extra KDE packages that were left off of Disc #1 were done so intentionally. We can fit "kdebase" onto the first disc, but it's simply not practical to include teTeX and a number of the other larger dependencies on the first CDROM. That would be unfair to Gnome and any number of smaller packages that would have to be removed to make room. The extra KDE packages were supposed to appear on disc #3 or 4, but they were left out of the package split, and since we haven't been in the habit of releasing all four discs as release candidates, this was not caught in time KDE will install and run fine from the first CDROM, but some of the optional KDE components are not there. Would you be interested in working on a "checklist" of must-have packages for the CDROM set? The package building team (portmgr@FreeBSD.org) could really use some assistance formalizing the procedure for splitting up the packages for the release. Alternatively, we could ask the package builders to post a package listing for discs 3 and 4 some number of weeks before the next release. I don't think that it is practical to distribute all four ISOs with each release candidates (I'd be satisfied if more users could download and provide feedback for just the first ISO), but it may be worthwhile to allow all of our -stable users to review the proposed package split to make sure all of the really important packages are on disc 1, and as many popular packages as will fit make discs 3 and 4. FWIW, we did add a number of packages to the disc 1 ISO based on user suggestions from the release candidates. If the package building team can provide a new split for discs 3 and 4 then we can reupload those to the FTP sites. This is no justification for a point release though -- this is a problem with the package set on the ISOs, there have been no major problem reports with the actual released system. This doesn't even affect net or DVD installs, for example, it is solely a problem with the disc3 and disc4 ISO images. I think that we're up to 9 CDROMs worth of FreeBSD packages from the ports tree. Clearly, with each release there is going to be more and more packages that don't make the cut. The FreeBSD Toolkit 6-CD set from FreeBSD Mall, and the DVD products from FreeBSD Services continue to be sources for these additional packages that don't make the 4 CD set. - Murray --z4+8/lEcDcG5Ke9S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8YdtOtNcQog5FH30RAhDcAKDJ59BE/cO1NGE0LwQgA0uz4D7z0ACfZ7eV IFKB9LEjavpV6FD0uBR2Gw8= =JOMO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z4+8/lEcDcG5Ke9S-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message