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Date:      Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:50:22 GMT
From:      "Val P" <secureplay@sbcglobal.net>
To:        freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   RE: ports/67721: FreeBSD-current + Samba 3.0.4 + FAT32. File corruption
Message-ID:  <200406141350.i5EDoMqs093956@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR ports/67721; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "Val P" <secureplay@sbcglobal.net>
To: "'Patrick Dung'" <patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk>,
	<freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:  
Subject: RE: ports/67721: FreeBSD-current + Samba 3.0.4 + FAT32. File corruption
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 08:37:41 -0500

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 The old Fat-32 bug report which says basically the same thing has been =
 opened in the database for 2 years. Either the bug exists in stable too,
 or the bug has never been closed. At least I think it's saying the same =
 thing, you may want to verify. Regardless, I was hoping that 5.x will go =
 stable sometime soon, so the bug would need to be fixed ;)
 =20
 =20
 See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dkern/39043 for the bug =
 report that's been open for 2 years.
 =20
 =20
 thanks,
 -val
 
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 From: Patrick Dung [mailto:patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk]=20
 Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:39 AM
 To: Val P; freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
 Subject: Re: ports/67721: FreeBSD-current + Samba 3.0.4 + FAT32. File =
 corruption
 
 
 I don't know if the -stable has this bug.
 =20
 I agree with you point that the fix is not acceptable.
 I can only say that UFS/UFS2 does not have this bug.
 
 Val P <secureplay@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 
 "Fix=20
 Use UFS2(possibly UFS) as the backend of share instead of Fat32"
 
 
 The "Fix" in this bug report is not acceptable. Sometimes UFS is not an
 option. FAT32 is a cross-platform file system. UFS is not.
 
 Furthermore such a bug should not be in a -stable branch, unless the end
 user is warned somehow when trying to use it. Do you picture microsoft
 shipping out Windows XP with a file corruption bug in FAT32 and telling
 people (after they experience the problem and data loss, not ahead of =
 time)
 that their fix is to use NTFS?=20
 
 
 
 
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 <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Patrick Dung=20
 [mailto:patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 14, 2004 =
 7:39=20
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 freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
 ports/67721: FreeBSD-current + Samba 3.0.4 + FAT32. File=20
 corruption<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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 <DIV>I don't know if the -stable has this bug.</DIV>
 <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
 <DIV>I agree with you point that the fix is not acceptable.</DIV>
 <DIV>I can only say that UFS/UFS2 does not have this =
 bug.<BR><BR><B><I>Val P=20
 &lt;secureplay@sbcglobal.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px =
 solid">"Fix=20
   <BR>Use UFS2(possibly UFS) as the backend of share instead of=20
   Fat32"<BR><BR><BR>The "Fix" in this bug report is not acceptable. =
 Sometimes=20
   UFS is not an<BR>option. FAT32 is a cross-platform file system. UFS is =
 
   not.<BR><BR>Furthermore such a bug should not be in a -stable branch, =
 unless=20
   the end<BR>user is warned somehow when trying to use it. Do you =
 picture=20
   microsoft<BR>shipping out Windows XP with a file corruption bug in =
 FAT32 and=20
   telling<BR>people (after they experience the problem and data loss, =
 not ahead=20
   of time)<BR>that their fix is to use NTFS? <BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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