From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 10 10:54:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.the-i-pa.com (mail.the-i-pa.com [151.201.71.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD0A937B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: (qmail 20491 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2001 18:03:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iowna.com) (151.201.71.193) by mail.the-i-pa.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2001 18:03:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3B4B407D.CD189F6C@iowna.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:50:53 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tlambert2@mindspring.com Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral References: <20010706144935.A61843@xor.obsecurity.org> <3B4650D0.97F10B83@bellatlantic.net> <20010707002340.B16071@widomaker.com> <20010707004731V.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3B49F8D5.2C9BFA73@mindspring.com> <3B4A0124.26025FB5@iowna.com> <3B4A1423.E8E365E@mindspring.com> <86ofqth6p3.fsf@hades.hell.gr> <3B4A7D9C.A64230D9@softweyr.com> <3B4B07DE.4801D208@iowna.com> <3B4B3798.31B4B8E1@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert wrote: > Bill Moran wrote: > > Now, I've never used partition magic, but I (personally) > > find the FreeBSD partition program in sysinstall to be the > > easiest one I've ever used. What should be changed to make > > it easier? > > 1) Buy a new laptop > 2) Make the Windows partition smaller > 3) Install FreeBSD Touche ... considering the last time I installed FreeBSD on a laptop, the procedure was: 1) Boot from FreeBSD CD 2) Delete existing partition 3) Install FreeBSD OTOH: I don't see this as causing sysinstall's partition editor to be bad/worthless. How many other installers allow partition resizing (I don't know) Just add this feature (I'm not saying it would be easy, I'm saying that it doesn't require scrapping the existing system to add it, and lack of it does not invalidiate the quality/usefulness of what currently exists.) > > I disagree. I use sysinstall constantly. There's no easier > > way to install packages. > > ??? > > You suggested that people keep up to date using "cvsup"; Don't remember saying that, but I probably did ;) > but doing that won't result in new categories showing up > in "sysinstall", nor in your local packages archive being > updated to match your "cvsup" sources. You missed my point. I'm not defending sysintall in the previous paragraph. I'm defending an overall system maintenance utility that can be used for general stuff like changing network config, adding users, adding/removing software, etc. sysinstall does this now (whether badly or not). My point is only this: Do NOT assume that sysinstall is ONLY used during initial installation. It currently has the ability to help out long after the system is installed. Any utility that replaces it should be able to do the same. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message