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Date:      Wed, 18 Sep 2019 08:34:18 -0700
From:      vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
To:        Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
Cc:        =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_T=C3=BCxen?= <michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de>,  freebsd-net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org>,  Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: BBR patches?
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I'm using amd64. I'd get back as soon as base build is complete.

Thanks!

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:09 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:

> To get bbr running you will need to change your kernel config.
>
> Are you building i386 or amd64?
>
> After you have successfully did
>
> 1) buildworld
> 2) buildkernel
> 3) installkernel
>
> (you can look in UPDATING for instructions .. though the file is long :D)
>
> successfully let me know.. and then I will give you the tweaks you need t=
o
> add
> to the kerneconf.
>
> It won=E2=80=99t take as long to build because at that point you can add =
in the
> NO_CLEAN NO_CLEANDIR options as well since you will have built everything
> the first time
>
> R
>
> > On Sep 18, 2019, at 7:06 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > BTW, if you think I should be making any changes in configs, please do
> let me know.
> > My goal is to build a freebsd image with BBR patches on x86 VM.
> > Nothing fancy.
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:03 AM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Randall, Michael,
> >
> > I did "svn svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src"
> > and now doing "make buildworld buildkernel"
> > [I didn't change anything in configs - just whatever are the defaults]
> >
> > I would update as soon as its done.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 6:53 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote=
:
> > One other note.. I notice his kernel conf he sent does not have
> > the right things to get BBR even to attempt to build.
> >
> > I would suggest using that config for the first steps.. then he must ad=
d
> > the additional tcp stacks and the hpts in order to get bbr/rack and any
> other
> > extra stack=E2=80=A6.
> >
> > But I would suggest to build with his current config first and once he
> has
> > that in place and building
> >
> > a) apply the patch
> > b) add the extra kernel options
> >
> > R
> >
> > > On Sep 18, 2019, at 6:50 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thats  great idea Michael.
> > >
> > > From the look fo the build log I was sent, his blow-up has nothing to
> do
> > > with the patches.
> > >
> > > He should probably
> > >
> > > 1) Check out a fresh version of head.
> > > 2) Follow the instructions in UPDATING to get a clean build.
> > >   =E2=80=94  make buildworld
> > >   =E2=80=94 make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis-conf
> > >   =E2=80=94 make installkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis-conf
> > >
> > >    ** do the reboot and merge master **
> > >
> > > Then after that he could
> > >
> > > 3) Apply the current patch in the review
> > > 4) do build that
> > >      =E2=80=94 make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dhis_conf  -DNO_CLEAN -DNO_=
CLEANDIR
> > >      =E2=80=94 make install kernel KERNCONF=3Dhis_conf
> > >
> > > And he should have it all working :)
> > >
> > > I have done multiple builds with the latest head from yesterday both
> with and without
> > > the extra stacks and hpts.. and I can=E2=80=99t get a build failure..=
 this
> would verify he can
> > > at least build head..
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > >> On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:10 AM, Michael Tuexen <
> michael.tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 18. Sep 2019, at 08:19, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> > >>>
> > >>> correcting a typo:
> > >>>
> > >>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src
> > >>> current revision: 352434
> > >> I suggest to build/install head first without any patches. After tha=
t
> has worked,
> > >> apply the patches you are interested in. That way it is easy to
> separate generic
> > >> build issues and issue specific to a patch.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards
> > >> Michael
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you!
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:11 PM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Actually I am on head already as mentioned previously. Pulled it
> using
> > >>>> yesterday:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /use/src
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you could pls let me know the new patch, I can try that.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 18-Sep-2019, at 8:56 AM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There have been several patches pre-this one that provide
> > >>>> the infrastructure to support BBR.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Release 12.0 will *not* have these patches and will *not* compile
> it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have no intention at this point in doing a MFC of this work.. so
> if you
> > >>>> want
> > >>>> to run BBR you need to run Head
> > >>>>
> > >>>> R
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Randall,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Could you please provide a pointer to the latest patch. I had
> applied the
> > >>>> one you published Sep-10.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Following is what I have done:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 1. Picked FreeBSD 12.0 RELEASE VM from osboxes.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2. Got VM up under VMPlayer on x86 laptop
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 3. Checked out latest codebase from freebsd repo:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src*
> > >>>>
> > >>>> cd /usr/src;
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make buildworld buildkernel
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [this is where make fails when patch is applied]
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I could try to build with your latest patch - please send me a
> pointer.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks for your help!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:33 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Looking at your make file log I can=E2=80=99t really tell what you=
 are
> doing.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Its not the BBR or Rack code that is blowing up=E2=80=A6
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Are you cross compiling?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have done the old fashioned kernel make
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> i.e.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> cd src/sys/amd64/config
> > >>>>
> > >>>> config headvm
> > >>>>
> > >>>> cd ../compile/headvm
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make cleandepend ; make depend; make -j3
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have done
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> cd src
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3Dheadvm
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And even
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> to make sure that the build works without bbr.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I attach my headvm config..
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What exactly are you building and how? kernel config too please?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> R
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> looking
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I was at 352408.. let me update and try it
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> R
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hmm
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Did you get the patch I updated too this am?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have built it both with and without the bbr stack and had no
> issue..
> > >>>> there was
> > >>>>
> > >>>> an issue with KTLS before the update though.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I don=E2=80=99t recognize what you have below there though=E2=80=
=A6
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> R
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:47 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Got it - thank you!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. Following
> is SVN
> > >>>> info + make error mesg.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> #svnlite revision
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Path: .
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
> > >>>>
> > >>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Relative URL: ^/head
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Revision: 352436
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Node Kind: directory
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Schedule: normal
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Last Changed Author: jah
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
> > >>>> ----------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo
> dev_net.llo
> > >>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
> > >>>>
> > >>>> =3D=3D=3D> sys (cleandir)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o
> sack_filter.o
> > >>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h opt_tcpdebug.=
h
> > >>>> opt_kern_tls.h
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rm: x86: is a directory
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:41 PM vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Got it - thank you!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> btw, I tried to build the patch but its giving an error. Following
> is SVN
> > >>>> info + make error mesg.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have also attached the entire build log...snippet is below
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please let me know what am I missing here?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> #svnlite revision
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Path: .
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Working Copy Root Path: /usr/src
> > >>>>
> > >>>> URL: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/head
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Relative URL: ^/head
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Repository Root: svn://svn.freebsd.org/base
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Repository UUID: ccf9f872-aa2e-dd11-9fc8-001c23d0bc1f
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Revision: 352436
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Node Kind: directory
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Schedule: normal
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Last Changed Author: jah
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Last Changed Rev: 352434
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Last Changed Date: 2019-09-17 03:39:31 +0000 (Tue, 17 Sep 2019)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> root@osboxes:/usr/src #
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -------------------------------------------- snip
> > >>>> ----------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ad_elf64_obj.llo reloc_elf64.llo disk.llo part.llo vdisk.llo
> dev_net.llo
> > >>>> bcache.llo interp_simple.llo zfs_cmd.llo
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rm -f .depend .depend.* GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
> > >>>>
> > >>>> =3D=3D=3D> sys (cleandir)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rm -f export_syms machine x86 tcp_bbr.ko tcp_bbr.kld bbr.o
> sack_filter.o
> > >>>> rack_bbr_common.o opt_inet.h opt_inet6.h opt_ipsec.h opt_tcpdebug.=
h
> > >>>> opt_kern_tls.h
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rm: x86: is a directory
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make[3]: stopped in /usr/src/sys
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
> > >>>>
> > >>>> *** Error code 1
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> make: stopped in /usr/src
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:27 PM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Pacing is provided by tcp_hpts.c. The current linux patches do not
> have
> > >>>>
> > >>>> to have fq.. they built an alternate means of doing pacing into bb=
r.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In either case our testing has shown that our pacing is more
> accurate than
> > >>>>
> > >>>> either fq or the internal pacer :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> R
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:05 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks Randall.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I was able to apply the patch - now rebuilding the kernel. Would
> update on
> > >>>> how it goes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> BTW, is there any description on how lack of tc_fq under FreeBSD i=
s
> > >>>> compensated here?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The original BBR patches on Linux show that as a must-have? Is tha=
t
> > >>>> functionality implemented via tcp_ratelimit.[ch]?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any pointers to existing presentations/discussions highly
> appreciated?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks a lot.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:39 AM Randall Stewart <rrs@netflix.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You should be able to compile it against the current head. I
> re-doing that
> > >>>> now (had an
> > >>>>
> > >>>> issue with my machine and had to roll it back to a backup).
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> When I put the patch up on Sept 10th it complied with and without
> BBR on
> > >>>> whatever
> > >>>>
> > >>>> was that rev..
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Looking in the commit logs that would have been around 352191
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hope that helps
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> R
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 3:32 AM, vm finance <vm.finance2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Randall,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks for releasing BBR patch:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582#change-xcAWBif3E9Jq
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Could you please let me know what SVN/GIT label tag this is based
> on? I
> > >>>> would like to patch and experiment with it. I couldn't find this
> info in
> > >>>> the released patch.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks a lot!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:26 AM Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rrs@ has just posted the BBR patch to phabricator:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21582
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ------
> > >>>> Randall Stewart
> > >>>> rrs@netflix.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
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> > >
> > > ------
> > > Randall Stewart
> > > rrs@netflix.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------
> > Randall Stewart
> > rrs@netflix.com
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------
> Randall Stewart
> rrs@netflix.com
>
>
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