From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 19 09:46:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EE17E; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22f.google.com (mail-wi0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0D78A6; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id h11so523852wiv.2 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 02:46:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=n1uUd+/ZOPA38EiRjsijdbPjr5ajljfVvOcMS9FnZWI=; b=x7JMXfJjG0VaTKv9OOoxpTeiVe3OkKeoxsJLrtk9biY2IfJftWQGbIrvAH5RNbnBlZ Jbzf20LglH+lUHWQvGlqLkBRFpQqlB15LsH0kCW0ur/pXAbRJBh+AK4QcnsEG0JXfo70 n9jJM4PuydRZZoyx77G2ihjxe2s59Ndx44Y2DFDfsOIiSK5p4ipVo5TtUtCIXLiALJ8h 7xQNHHdj4uvuKGtbMN/u6AipVlPkwOHLcDKGT77NaedgAz5PTFQEV3u4Fv0XHkOBmYAL XauzlaRoQx516gaLQ1+/JFjvs+x60mQX6AFsXfiL7N3TkoKasNTHwt5/Ec29fySsM20j ohsw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.83.199 with SMTP id s7mr347953wiy.19.1366364758021; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.76.147 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Apr 2013 02:45:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130414160648.GD96431@in-addr.com> References: <20130411201805.GD76816@FreeBSD.org> <7D8ACD5C-821D-4505-82E4-02267A7BA4F8@FreeBSD.org> <96D56EAE-E797-429E-AEC9-42B19B048CCC@FreeBSD.org> <6DEDD3EA-45C1-4549-AA13-5E4F6674BE3E@samsco.org> <2D0B66DB-E232-4F34-9D01-57DF226B9BAA@FreeBSD.org> <2DA4A561-3304-432D-B5D1-7053A27E758F@yahoo.com> <20130414160648.GD96431@in-addr.com> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:45:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer From: David Demelier To: Gary Palmer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Warren Block , Scott Long , "current@freebsd.org" , Chris Rees , Rui Paulo , "net@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 09:46:48 -0000 2013/4/14 Gary Palmer : > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 09:48:33AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: >> Is it possible to move ipfilter into a port? > > That may work short term, but the ENOMAINTAINER problem will quickly creep > up again as kernel APIs change. If the author has lost interest in > maintaining the FreeBSD port of ipfilter then unless someone steps forward > to carry on the work, I don't see much of a future for ipfilter in > FreeBSD > > Do we honestly need three packet filters? > No, for me only one should be present. I completely understand that some users still use IPFilter and IPFW but why providing three packet filters? The answer should be: use one and document only one. If at the beginning we started documenting only one all users should have used the only one present. Now we really need to remove the ancestral ipfilter and tell people switching to pf(4). Everything in life change, if we need to maintain all code from the past we will have a lot of compat code that pollute the full source tree and we will never improve the code just because of old bits My $0.02, Regards -- Demelier David