From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 2 10:08:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C65537B401 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.liwing.de (mail.liwing.de [213.70.188.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6637043F93 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:08:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rehsack@liwing.de) Received: (qmail 3482 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2003 18:08:33 -0000 Received: from stingray.liwing.de (HELO liwing.de) ([213.70.188.164]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.liwing.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Apr 2003 18:08:33 -0000 Message-ID: <3E8B2720.4080000@liwing.de> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 20:08:32 +0200 From: Jens Rehsack Organization: LiWing IT-Services User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org References: <3E8B093D.4010500@liwing.de> <20030402180108.GA68454@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG cc: John Baldwin Subject: Re: Removing Sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 18:08:38 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 06:01:01PM +0200, Jens Rehsack wrote: > >>The problem I see with that is, that even a minimalistic base install >>installs things like sendmail, ppp, atm-stuff, g77 and so on. > > I would love to see the toolchain broken out into its own tarball like > NetBSD. It isn't a simple 10min change though. > I know. If it would someone had done before :-) It more a wish than a real expectation. Is somewhere a todo list how going on when trying to add eg. NO_PPP? Maybe: update your source to current check directories belong to patch Makefile(s) save patches buildworld reboot to single user mode rm usr/bin usr/lib usr/sbin /usr/libexec make installworld Are there any tests for the world available? If not, maybe a good point starting is writing a test suite which checks working of each not deselected world-component as good as it get's. Regards, Jens