From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Mar 8 13:39:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E95637B71F for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:39:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f28LXTH31771; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:33:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: dennis@etinc.com Cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk, dillon@earth.backplane.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_fxp status? In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010308115432.01ee0d60@mail.etinc.com> References: <19930.984032091@critter> <5.0.0.25.0.20010308115432.01ee0d60@mail.etinc.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010308133329U.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:33:29 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 35 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: Re: if_fxp status? Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:59:39 -0500 > Why do I get flamed for expressing my concerns about a very important > driver and PHK, who hasn't said one intelligent thing on the list in years, > regularly makes inflammatory statements with no content whatsoever such as > the above and on-one ever "disciplines" him? reminds me of an old george > orwell novell.... > > Jordan? I do think that many of the responses to this have been rather inappropriate and only serve to fan rather than quench the flames. You don't exactly have a reputation for being Mister Tact, of course, and that leads some to go into knee-jerk reaction mode whenever they see your name on the From line, but that still doesn't explain the lack of answers to your and other people's questions about the fxp driver's current status. Someone in this thread even donated equipment and is now quite understandably waiting for some sort of status report on it. All that said, David's father died very recently and he's still working on all the issues of resolving the estate, so he can also obviously be forgiven a certain lack of responsiveness on this. I know that if I'd just lost my dad, an ethernet card driver would be very near the last thing I'd be immediately concerned with. Perhaps someone else would like to take over maintenance of the fxp driver for awhile? That would be the reasonable and logical thing to do, and if they do a good job of it DG might even be inclined to just leave it in their hands permanently - I'm sure he has a lot on his plate these days as it is. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message