From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 08:35:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492DE37B401; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F184643F93; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h73FZNQX005501; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h73FZN80005491; Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:35:23 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20030803153523.GB72914@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , John Baldwin , Wilko Bulte , alpha@freebsd.org, Peter Wemm , Jake Burkholder , re@freebsd.org, Scott Long , Ruslan Ermilov References: <20030803014647.GD98015@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: re@FreeBSD.org cc: Peter Wemm cc: Jake Burkholder cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Scott Long cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: miniboot.iso (was: Re: Floppies for ALPHA) X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 15:35:25 -0000 On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 12:35:42AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On 03-Aug-2003 David O'Brien wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 12:42:49PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >> OK, the attached (trivial) patch can be used to create the > >> miniboot.iso. Its contents is identical to what goes on the > >> miniinst.iso, except for NOT putting any distributions, docs, > >> and ports. > >> > >> The uncompressed size for i386 is 46M, bzip2(1) compressed size > >> is 16M, which I think many people can afford. (The size of the > > > > What in the world is on this thing to be 46MB?!?!?!? All 3 .flp's added > > together aren't this large. > > It has GENERIC plus modules plus kernel.debug for CURRENT snapshots, > not BOOTMFS. Then it has the wrong image for what we need. > >> Jake, a question for you: can this miniboot.iso image be used on > >> sparc64 like on Alpha (as Wilko demonstrated) instead of the ugly > >> boot.flp image? > > > > Why is making boot.flp "ugly"?? > > Because it uses a stripped down kernel with less support, and why > go through all the heartache to limit it's size when you can just > use a stock generic kernel? > > T DAVID PLZ 2 B RELAX K PLZ THX Whatever. You guys keep missing the idea and I can only guess it is from lack of using a lot of non-i386 hardware. Whatever. I'm trying hard to make things better here from the mess we have today. Sorry I can't read your mind on what is "ugly" about about boot.flp on the sparc. Since dokern.sh didn't sed out anything from GENERIC, I'd love to hear an explanation on how the sparc64 boot.flp kernel is "stripped down" and isn't a "stock generic kernel". -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)