From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 16 10:01:42 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E83158F933 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9011D6E192 for ; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1558000901; x=1560592901; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=t7qRRDT8Ae54pXnwS+2sWI2ceKuHetNL+9Z3LEmwCsE=; b=U1ggJ5BCEZbvsFmyBodgHjzqe9TFJPCf5tO4INCywOk5DNBvnSdiKhbtIIr3Uao3ySC5BJ9fgwEL8F3q2Euiq6QJzb2YnSt+waDeOnsXDWy6L6QPrSbwDBkCg3baXxOOM9te9g6JUOvFBqFhQ0rrgr/sQpzeFL4Rmqq5z7laMlU= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYWQwMDAwMDExNjRiMDMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.186.58.227]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 16 May 2019 05:01:17 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 16 May 2019 05:01:16 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1hRCGI-0006Bd-By for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 May 2019 10:01:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 10:01:14 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: android phone backup NOT to google cloud question Message-Id: <20190516100114.fcb08b7ba3ac1b5b5f16ed1c@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9011D6E192 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=U1ggJ5BC; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.84 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mxbh.socketlabs.com,mxbsg.socketlabs.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.61)[-0.614,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.22)[ip: (-0.58), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.27), asn: 7381(-0.20), country: US(-0.06)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[email-od.com.multi.uribl.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 10:01:42 -0000 On Wed, 15 May 2019 09:22:49 -0500 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Dear All, > > My apologies for OT question. > > I wonder if someone of Android smartphone owners backs up their device > and user/application data NOT to google cloud. Yes there are options that are worth looking into owncloud - open source similar to Google Drive or Dropbox - I've never been able to get it working to suit me YMMV radicale - open source CALDAV/CARDDAV service - I keep my contacts on this using davx5 on the Android side. There are also Android implementations of rsync - I use one (arcosync) that is no longer in the play store to backup photos and a selection of application files. > I just had to get new smartphone, and discovered that short of rooting > device or unlocking bootloader and flashing one of "un-googled" android > builds I can not find the way to back up everything. To my storage, NOT That is unfortunately true and none of the above helps with this in any way because unless the device is rooted access to application data is for the most part restricted to the application that created it which is a PITA. > TO GOOGLE CLOUD that is. adb lets me back up system and applications > (and data on add-on flash card), but not application data stored in > internal storage (say, off-line maps downloaded by offline map > application). Yep - and even when you can get a copy of some data you can't always restore it without root or the cooperation of the application. > Any advise, anybody? root it. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith