From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 03:03:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D17082A; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 03:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from quine.pinyon.org (quine.pinyon.org [65.101.5.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D41E30D0; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 03:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by quine.pinyon.org (Postfix, from userid 122) id 1F6C9160490; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:02:56 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on quine.pinyon.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from feyerabend.n1.pinyon.org (feyerabend.n1.pinyon.org [10.0.10.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by quine.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1606E1601FB; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:02:53 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <53F16CDC.4000204@pinyon.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:02:52 -0700 From: "Russell L. Carter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Rodrigues Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? References: <20140811221043.492110d4@arch> <20140813213718.4814f58c@arch> <53EC1214.9020505@pinyon.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 03:03:03 -0000 Hi Craig, On 08/15/14 12:01, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > One complaint I have about the FreeBSD project, is that the core > project contributors and developers rely too much on > e-mail for communication. This certainly works, and I use it too, but > new and casual users getting into FreeBSD > may get lost in the maze of FreeBSD mailing lists. It would be nice > if more of the core project contributors > used the web forums ( http://forums.freebsd.org ), since stuff like > that shows up nicely in web searches, and it is easier > for newcomers to find stuff, and jump in and contribute to threads, > versus mailing lists. All true, but some of us geezers have an aversion to our content existing off our own systems. I really like having local copies of the content I find important, and that's hard to do with a web forum. With thunderbird, I just star the message, and it hangs around as long as I want it (assuming I've got bounded retention policies in place on that folder). It would be a complete delusion to expect new users to set up the mail system(s) I have in place, because chicken|egg? how would they know how to install a postfix-spamassassin-dovecot-sieve-thunderbird-emacs message flow? Not going to happen. But I *really* love my setup, and I guess I'm going to die with something similar to what I have now. However, I would like to help with static docs if I can. poudriere + pkg + zfs ssd + 8 core system was a bit of an effort to configure and tune. Then I had to figure out the remote access business, working through some issues. But I am *delighted* to have nightly updated binary packages just like debian. I am closing in on 900 ports maintained by poudriere, counting implied dependencies. It all works perfectly so far. I knew I wanted to escape systemd, and I knew I wanted to live in the zfs world, but I had no idea that I'd really love living in the pkg + poudriere world. I just remembered I have a zfs story that saved me lots of time. I have a bunch of used 300GB drives that are plenty fast enough for the root fs. So I worked through the zfs root on mirrored drives posts, and got it up and running, easily enough. And then guess what? One of those root drives failed. After figuring out which one (trial and error), I put a matching new (old) drive in the slot. Booted up, and voila! Mirrored again. That was hot. I'm a zfs man (person) now. Best, Russell > > -- > Craig >