From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 20 09:44:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC7FC173DE for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:44:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58D2E153 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-117-205.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.117.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38C13277AF; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:44:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u9K9iomF002062; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:44:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:44:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: jd1008 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Drive Read Errors Message-Id: <20161020114450.d9d72048.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <58080DE9.6070609@gmail.com> References: <7353bec4-4a98-7e86-bda9-4c401bb2ad71@fastmail.com> <0916225e-d618-d08a-df98-778e9ed23642@citrin.ru> <58080DE9.6070609@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:44:54 -0000 On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 18:20:57 -0600, jd1008 wrote: > It would be very useful if users were allowed the option to re-run > very low level format to remove all bad blocks from the "good" blocks > map, and create a new set of good blocks for future bad block replacement. > But of course, that would reduce the capacity (size), which would > require that > such information be available to the computer. > > But of course, manufacturers are not interested in "extending" the > usable life of a drive :) Are you old enough to remeber the time when the PC's BIOS (AMIBIOS at least) had the options LOW LEVEL FORMAT and MEDIA ANALYIS combined with the ability to manually specify the disk geometry in C/H/S format ("type 47") - where you could enter _smaller_ values (resulting in less disk space of course) in order to "circumvent defective sectors" when they were located at the "end of the disk"? Cyln Head WPComp LZone Sect Size Disk C: Type : 47 = USER TYPE 976 12 65535 976 61 349 MB Disk D: Type : Not installed Looks familiar? :-) I still have an 80 MB (P)ATA disk that has been "down- formatted" to 40 MB which actually works! It's part of my timeless museum of impossible things. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...