From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 13 20:47:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694D216A4CE for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:47:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk (smtphost.cis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E4943D1F for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:47:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (chrishodgins.force9.co.uk [84.92.20.141]) j2DKkwNU003030; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:46:58 GMT Message-ID: <4234A809.7000407@cis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:52:25 +0000 From: Chris Hodgins User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: racerx@makeworld.com References: <20050313200543.B290F4BE6D@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <200503131220.02607.ringworm01@gmail.com> <4234A4C5.2090109@cis.strath.ac.uk> <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <4234A531.6040100@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@cis.strath.ac.uk for more information X-CIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-4.9, required 6, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-CIS-MailScanner-From: chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk cc: "Michael C. Shultz" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:47:04 -0000 Chris wrote: > Chris Hodgins wrote: > >>Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> >> >>>On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote: >>> >>> >>>>If I just do: >>>> >>>>cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u >>>> >>>>Do I need portupgrade at all then? >>>> >>>>Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>>Not for upgrading. portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is a >>>nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others >>>so I keep portupgrade around just the same. >>> >>>-Mike >> >> >>How long does it take to run portmanager. Is it a similar amount of >>time as portupgrade for each run? >> >>Chris > > > The time is about the same (in my experiance) AND (most importantly) > portmanager seems to handle upgrading better then portupgrade does. > > IE: Thunderbird, Gnome, Firefox. > > Another nifty thing is that portmanager creates a package and dumps it > in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird (for example) and at least for me, I can > pkg_add that to my laptop since they both run 5.3 > Excellent. Does it leave packages for everything or is just thunderbird that does this?