From owner-freebsd-java@freebsd.org Wed Dec 5 09:24:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39360130C2D3 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eirik.overby@modirum.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2568C0AF for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eirik.overby@modirum.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6A762130C2D2; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D89130C2D0 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eirik.overby@modirum.com) Received: from mail.modirum.com (mail.modirum.com [31.185.27.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DA2C8C0AC; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eirik.overby@modirum.com) Received: by mail.modirum.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gUTPw-000Prj-Bq; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 09:24:28 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: Supporting the OpenJDK11 port to FreeBSD From: =?utf-8?Q?Eirik_=C3=98verby?= In-Reply-To: <14f77902-ed42-48ec-c852-1d0af210492f@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 10:24:25 +0100 Cc: java@freebsd.org, Marie Helene Kvello-Aune , jmd@FreeBSD.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <34C571F9-0EB9-4883-8DF3-00220E2212E8@modirum.com> References: <0327C3A2-813D-4597-86F1-B2ED7E9BE2FC@anduin.net> <14f77902-ed42-48ec-c852-1d0af210492f@gmx.net> To: Michael Osipov <1983-01-06@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-SA-Authenticated: Yes X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AD2568C0AF X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.26 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_FORWARDING(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FORWARDED(0.00)[java@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[modirum.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.981,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[5.0.0.0.0.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.a.6.0.2.4.5.2.2.0.0.9.1.1.0.0.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.9.2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mail.modirum.com]; R_SPF_PERMFAIL(0.00)[~all]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmx.net]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.57)[ip: (-9.87), ipnet: 2001:1900:2254::/48(-4.56), asn: 10310(-3.31), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10310, ipnet:2001:1900:2254::/48, country:US]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS(0.00)[java@freebsd.org ..,freebsd-java@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 09:24:41 -0000 > On 4 Dec 2018, at 21:52, Michael Osipov <1983-01-06@gmx.net> wrote: >=20 > Am 2018-11-27 um 20:28 schrieb Eirik =C3=98verby: >> Hi, >> Realized I sent this from the wrong address to the wrong address .. = sorry if this comes across as pestering! >> I hope someone can take a look at the below, or point me in the right = direction. >> Wbr >> /Eirik >> Begin forwarded message: >>> From: Eirik =C3=98verby >>> Date: 17 November 2018 at 12:24:36 EET >>> To: glewis@FreeBSD.org >>> Subject: Supporting the OpenJDK11 port to FreeBSD >>>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> we're a company that hosts all our code (payment- and authentication = stuff) on FreeBSD/Tomcat and we're being asked by our devs when we can = have OpenJDK9^H10^H^H11 support. Before you ask - no, none of them are = capable of porting anything - they couldn't care less about the = platform. >=20 > Same issue here: running FreeBSD, Java, Tomcat, and surroundings like = Ant, Maven, etc. >=20 >>> What would be the correct way to offer monetary (or other) support = to the FreeBSD/Java project in such a way that >>> - the money is well spent? >>> - porting efforts can get some priority and attention, soonish? >>>=20 >>> Not sure what kind of support would make a difference here, but we = can throw all sorts of hardware at the project, and at least a man-month = or two if that's what it takes. >=20 > I don't think that hardware will really help. What really helps is = someone who can assist Greg or contact the foundation and remind them of = [1], "Development of software for FreeBSD to benefit the user and = developer community, including contract development of critical system = infrastructure, porting of closed source applications such as Java(TM)." = with your donation. >=20 > I talked with jmd@ about this gaining some traction for Java 11+ in = FreeBSD by joining AdoptAJDK and assisting Greg with this huge effort. > It just needs someone who will drive this. The first must be to get = all BSD related changes Greg and others have made into JDK8u, no more = bsd-port Hg repo. >=20 > Would you take on this? Depends what you mean by "drive". We're stretched thin on the manpower = side, and more importantly I'm not sure we have anyone who could = confidently lead such a project. My thinking (or hope..) is that someone = who has already led such efforts - with Java, specifically - could be = enabled to work on this with some degree of focus for a useful amount of = time if the bread-and-butter requirements are taken care of. Hence our = suggestion to fund this work with a few man-months. If some of that (not = too much, please ;) is spent planning the efforts and organising it, = then so be it - we're fully and painfully aware that it's often the most = costly part of any development project. /Eirik=