Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 23:16:48 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kenagy <jktheowl@bga.com> To: "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu> Cc: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft Vs. Texas Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980513214711.1336A-100000@barnowl> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980513133638.836A-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu>
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On Wed, 13 May 1998, Jason C. Wells wrote: > On Wed, 13 May 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > >Given that your State's major computer makers have succeeded in influencing the > >due law process, I am going to make it a point NOT to buy DELL or Compaq > >computers. > > CC to dan.morales trimmed in the interest of decorum. > Same trim... > How, on earth, does it possibly help us to send email to a government > official telling him that he is and the government he works in is corrupt? Though acknowleging pressure from the Texas computer industry in my letter, I think Mr. Morales' decision was probably based on the apellate court decision announced in the paper. I think he also understands "advocacy" includes sometimes outrageous and even uninformed statements. For better or worse. > How does this advance FreeBSD? It does not advance FreeBSD or free > software in any way, whatsoever. How does it help us to advertise that > _we_ are not interested in two major PC manufacturers? > This is not advocacy. This is vindictive. It is also a basic tool of comsumer advocacy. > When you CC'd this list in your communication with Dan Morales you > provided a de facto endorsement of your position by the entire FreeBSD > community. I think the victorian term was "balderdash". CC' ing simply states that someone else got a copy. > If you really feel this way then that is your personal interaction with > your government officials. Leave me out of it. > I think that the the term "lazy" has been used (by you?) to describe BSD > advocacy on a couple occasions. If this is what it means to _not_ be lazy, > I want no part of it. Don't bash me for being "lazy" if I refuse to be > vindictive. You are _not_ lazy. (And not calm either ;-) - good!) > Don't mistake calm discussion for ineffective discussion. We need not be > bully-ish to advance FreeBSD. > I think that -advocacy should lay down some ground rules for our behaviour > in the public eye. We should write it down and make everyone abide by the > rules. This should be done in the interest of the image of FreeBSD. > The -core is fortunate in this respect, they have leadership and > organization. -Advocacy should develop the same. We should get all of our > guns pointed in the right direction before we start having friendly > casualties. Government has an irrevokable and powerful influence on commerce. If you don't like something government does, say so to what ever official is the responsible party. I am sorry if my doing so has offended any on this list. You have made, under separate cover, a proposal for a charter and a "network". Do it. I support you in it. John > Thank you, | Try some of this. It will show you where you're at. > Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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