From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 17 09:26:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9BC16A4CE for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from tower.berklix.org (bsd.bsn.com [194.221.32.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04AF43FD7 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:26:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from tower.berklix.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hAHHQ7BN028253; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@tower.berklix.org) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id hAHHQ0Mj028252; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:26:00 +0100 (CET) From: Julian Stacey Message-Id: <200311171726.hAHHQ0Mj028252@tower.berklix.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fcc: sent-mail In-Reply-To: Message from Bill Vermillion of "Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:37:47 EST." <20031117043747.GB66773@wjv.com> cc: bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:26:16 -0000 Bill Vermillion wrote: > I would think that instead of NO_DYNAMICROOT root in make.conf, > a varialbe of DYNAMICROOT be used with the default of building > static, and having the option of building dynamic for those > who need to save those few MB of space. IOW don't change one of > the things that has made the BSD so rugged and reliable for so many > years. Seconded ! Better commit an improved switch with default = Off. Richard Coleman wrote: > But I think the time for these discussions is passed. current@ is only a concensus of /usr/src developers. /usr/src & /usr/ports/ users on hackers@ ports@ isp@ may not have seen current@'s change ? that may make later net upgrades more problematic / dangerous. FreeBSD (non current) can be net upgraded to new releases without any /usr/src & /usr/obj on either remote target or local (keyboard) system, using merely an ftp'd new binary tree + `mv'. Will a safe new `ftp + mv' procedure be documented ? - Julian Stacey Freelance Systems Engineer, Unix & Net Consultant, Munich.