From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 18 4: 2:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89C237B401 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 04:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g5IAhJs60038; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:43:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from JAMIEHECKFORD (wrkstn-68.pe.trident-uk.co.uk [192.168.100.68]) by marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1av) with SMTP id g5IAhGd60027; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:43:16 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <079f01c216b7$8fa69340$4464a8c0@JAMIEHECKFORD> From: "Jamie Heckford" To: "Matthias Andree" Cc: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020617112839.030a9ff8@popmail.ct.lodgenet.com><20020617204825.GC25616@leviathan.inethouston.net> Subject: Re: ATA Atapi 4.6 Release Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 12:01:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I jumped back to 4.5 earlier, installing 4.6-R with 120GB IDE drives (1x 40GB, 3x 120GB) and the system wouldn't boot. Came up with a page fault and fatal trap 12, i'll try grab some output and repost. Thanks, Jamie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Andree" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: ATA Atapi 4.6 Release > "David W. Chapman Jr." writes: > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 11:38:01AM -0500, John Prince wrote: > >> I have to say, I am a bit disappointed in the 4.6 release, as well as the > >> way problems have been identified, and swept under the carpet.. > > > > Why didn't you express these concerns for the past few months? > > There have been several reports of ATA and ATAPI brokenness after the > MFC. > > After I brought the TCQ brokenness up again at 4.6-RC time, Søren fixed > the boot panic I experienced, and in late May he wrote he could > reproduce the other known TCQ-timeout-and-fall-back-to-PIO problem, but > I've never seen anything since. But what is bringing up a known problem > again of help? Do you want people to scream their problem list every > week? The PRs are there, and are open, so you cannot say these concerns > had not been expressed. They have indeed. > > And I agree with those who say that 4.6 should NOT have been released > with ATA(PI) in /this/ shape. > > I have been told (on this list) by the RE team that the MFC cannot be > backed out and that 5.0DP2 is close, and I understand they want to keep > the schedule as good as possible, but all these objections do not help > the regression or displeasing users. And the latter is a Bad Thing®. > > -- > Matthias Andree > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message