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Date:      Sun, 04 Aug 2024 20:38:20 +0000
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: A Demo of rust-in-base
Message-ID:  <202408042038.474KcKrD052069@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfp3N7HSXK2yW2N6BCFS3aNJwJNiozpnhUvJUOAVX_H9rA@mail.gmail.com>
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Warner Losh writes:

> > > Because those two components need to be updated in lock-step with
> > > potentially any git commit to the base system.  Not just official
> > > releases, even minor ones.
> >
> > I'm not trying to be glib here: I really want to make sure I understand
> > any fine nuances you are trying to communicate.
> >
> > Isn't that precisely what drm-kmod already deals with ?
>
> [...]
>
> The other is KBI and matching the kernel. The massive inlining in linuxkpi
> make a stable KBI basically impossible [...]

That was essentially my point:  We already have things in ports which
are totally fragile relative to the kernel, so I want to make sure there
is not som new/other/worse/different aspects in the two cases Alan
brought up.


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