From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 28 19:33:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5186037B41A for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 19:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1A7F81461; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:03:22 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:03:22 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Anton Shcherbinin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv6: how can I get rid of it? Message-ID: <20020429120322.A15117@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <743669500.20020427213601@fastmail.fm> <20020428104538.B83112@wantadilla.lemis.com> <1411696390.20020428231738@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1411696390.20020428231738@fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 28 April 2002 at 23:17:38 +0400, Anton Shcherbinin wrote: > Sunday, April 28, 2002, 5:15:39, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Saturday, 27 April 2002 at 16:32:28 -0400, Joe & Fhe Barbish wrote: >>> On Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:36 PM, Anton Shcherbinin wrote: >>>> >>>> I installed FreeBSD 4.5 Release. When my host is trying to connect to >>>> any other host specified by name, I experience a huge (1.5 minutes) >>>> delay before the hosts are connected. For example, suppose I want to get >>>> http://yahoo.com/ page. I write: >>>> >>>> $ telnet yahoo.com 80 >>>> >>>> At the same time (actually, a bit earlier), I wrote at another console >>>> as root: >>>> >>>> # tcpdump -n >>>> >>>> And here is tcpdump's output (a bit edited for clarity): >>>> >>>> 18:37:51.501962 my_host.1055 > our_DNS_server.53: 4486+ AAAA? yahoo.com. (27) >>>> 18:37:56.512212 my_host.1056 > our_DNS_server.53: 4486+ AAAA? yahoo.com. (27) >>>> 18:38:06.522353 my_host.1057 > our_DNS_server.53: 4486+ AAAA? yahoo.com. (27) >>>> 18:38:26.532655 my_host.1058 > our_DNS_server.53: 4486+ AAAA? yahoo.com. (27) >>>> 18:39:06.543281 my_host.1059 > our_DNS_server.53: 4487+ A? yahoo.com. (27) >>>> 18:39:06.683069 our_DNS_server.53 > my_host.1059: 4487* 2/5/5 A 66.218.71.113, (238) >>>> 18:39:06.683609 my_host.1028 > yahoo.com.80: S 2162865409:2162865409(0) win 65535 (DF) [tos 0x10] >>>> 18:39:06.909922 yahoo.com.80 > my_host.1028: S 2552035614:2552035614(0) ack 2162865410 win 65535 >>>> 18:39:06.909984 my_host.1028 > yahoo.com.80: . ack 1 win 33304 (DF) [tos 0x10] >>>> >>>> That is, my host tries to resolve yahoo.com at our DNS server, *but* it >>>> looks for 'AAAA' RR, and not 'A'. It gets no reply, and in 5 seconds it >>>> retries the query (again, 'AAAA' RR). No reply again, it retries in 10 >>>> seconds, then again in 20 seconds. No reply within 40 seconds. >>>> *FINALLY*, my host asks DNS server for 'A' RR for yahoo.com . And no >>>> wonder that in several milliseconds DNS server tells my host yahoo.com's >>>> IP address. Then, within several milliseconds, my host and yahoo.com >>>> become TCP-connected. >>>> >>>> As you can see, I had to waste 5+10+20+40==75 seconds watching my host >>>> try to find nonexistent AAAA resource record. And things are the same if >>>> I try to send mail or to connect to ftp site or whatever else. >>>> >>>> What have I done wrong? What should I do? Thanks a lot for any ideas. >>>> >>>> I general, what are AAAA records? RFC1034/1035 say nothing about >>>> such RR. What TFM should I read about them? > >> They're address records for IPV6. > > Thank you, Greg. It makes things much clearer. > >> So what's the problem? I really don't know. Does this only happen >> with telnet? Only with yahoo.com? > > As I have already said, the same happens with any application and any > host. E. g., with ftp and ftp.freebsd.org : > 1) my host queries our DNS server for AAAA record of ftp.freebsd.org > 2) query times out in 5 secs > 3) the same query > 4) query times out in 10 secs > 5) the same query > 6) query times out in 20 secs > 7) the same query > 8) query times out in 40 secs > 9) the same query, *but* for A record; DNS server replies in some ms, > and then everything goes great, my host quickly connects > to ftp.freebsd.org:21 etc. > > How can I fix that? > > The only thing I could think of is to disable IPv6 at all. But wait a > second: > > $ grep -i ipv6_enable /etc/rc* /etc/defaults/* > /etc/rc:case ${ipv6_enable} in > /etc/defaults/rc.conf:ipv6_enable="NO" # Set to YES to set up for IPv6. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Does not it mean that IPv6 is already disabled? Well, there are a number more IPV6 options than enable. Maybe one of the others is set incorrectly. Note that this is the resolver library trying for all it's worth to get an AAAA record. It could do that even if you didn't have any IPV6 network interfaces. I'd start by comparing your /etc with the /etc in the distribution. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message