From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 4 02:25:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F8DF86; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 02:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from berend@pobox.com) Received: from smtp.pobox.com (b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com [208.72.237.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07431497; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 02:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D105726109; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 02:24:51 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=date :message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=m1toXEkjdfRnsASEJp+OS9zNdyo=; b=Fd2FUO6plkiVLBcfVNqzoCir8KhZ Rx392BChKxHd2VVcCa/CGme9CUNLNoP5WosbCo/z1S7EUyEmgSQIB8FAEujVln6g xb4FBZY3mqiyAcsS22opgh0wXbVZFtIYbbiOI9fxjftycekNHiBXBGzM5apLrpXO ZS8TA5ZCQ2WIXCQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=HCT79l RiXNHuljZ9aJM1WSCtb3bVXymgH3+Vo2pEYskw9sAxY6AjO52xHK6GxP5a6Gq5YB iYh9LHYUFAIaGtLFqY30lpItmCebdHRnQamIQgufKzLFjF09W+ePJbe8/0lo3hcF NLhmVRHclQXPz7QLago+4vEgJh5wmhwD0DJzQ= Received: from b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE21026108; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 02:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bmach.nederware.nl (unknown [27.252.247.84]) by b-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C4C9B260FB; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 02:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from quadrio.nederware.nl (quadrio.nederware.nl [192.168.33.13]) by bmach.nederware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E179D5C80; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 14:24:43 +1200 (NZST) Received: from quadrio.nederware.nl (quadrio.nederware.nl [127.0.0.1]) by quadrio.nederware.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807EE49FB971; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 14:24:48 +1200 (NZST) Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 14:24:48 +1200 Message-ID: <8738rv3vv3.wl%berend@pobox.com> From: Berend de Boer To: Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: EBS snapshot backups from a FreeBSD zfs file system: zpool freeze? In-Reply-To: <20130704021535.GA77546@icarus.home.lan> References: <871u7g57rl.wl%berend@pobox.com> <87mwq34emp.wl%berend@pobox.com> <20130703200241.GB60515@in-addr.com> <87k3l748gb.wl%berend@pobox.com> <20130703233631.GA74698@icarus.home.lan> <87d2qz42q4.wl%berend@pobox.com> <20130704010815.GB75529@icarus.home.lan> <8761wr3xxk.wl%berend@pobox.com> <20130704021535.GA77546@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?B?R29qxY0=?=) APEL/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/24.3 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Organization: Xplain Technology Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="pgp-sign-Multipart_Thu_Jul__4_14:24:48_2013-1"; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pobox-Relay-ID: E791C322-E450-11E2-B6C3-E84251E3A03C-48001098!b-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Cc: freebsd-fs X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 02:25:00 -0000 --pgp-sign-Multipart_Thu_Jul__4_14:24:48_2013-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>>> "Jeremy" == Jeremy Chadwick writes: Jeremy> The solution which was chosen was for Oracle to actually Jeremy> ship the customer an entire bare metal system with a Jeremy> gargantuan amount of RAM (hundreds of gigabytes; I often Jeremy> say 384GB because that's what sticks in my mind for some Jeremy> reason, maybe it was 192GB, doesn't matter), just to Jeremy> recover from the situation. Yeah, well aware of the memory requirements. No problem. I see a lot of people here who are apparently unaware of AWS and why it is so far ahead of the pack. If I have a memory problem, I make an image of my machine, stop the old one, and boot up on a new machine with more memory. As simple as that. Takes my 5 minutes. 8GB not enough? 5 minutes later you boot up on 32GB without a sweat from your holiday vacation spot. 32GB not enough? What about 68GB? That's not enough? Why not 244GB? By that time your credit card is sweating, but hardware is trivially upgradable on EC2. No waiting for hardware to arrive, minimum down time, all customers remain happy. -- All the best, Berend de Boer ------------------------------------------------------ Awesome Drupal hosting: https://www.xplainhosting.com/ --pgp-sign-Multipart_Thu_Jul__4_14:24:48_2013-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABCAAGBQJR1NzwAAoJEKOfeD48G3g5AwkP/38pcPxPyq67OKIH8vmIJ6vT FQ7FNjHqTuXewJA4bkY2Y6DvefW/1/PWJeBgi9SCABkk5R7lCWuE93w2iqbOBaUT WUrdrKA2qDLnMXbhF2KQva/MvVJmr3oOmdXTMMeCvcWuZDqGSdG3tX1RJRmdXBN9 nW9W9OiGRezdrJCVut4+njZ0kuxYRxaP6f1YgyyCxYQp3YvgQn+1oRvAG2bbrQtl OWZWn1mNhh01QSfBMh8ocwd4Ev4FDS7dMHBYrx+rFzXF8rSFBNd2WgAeGn2ZtW13 eT8V3kB15u5e/XpeX+F5WvwDNbp8aBDM41hdG1F4/EsFVIJ0GTfbIdw7+2cRqH/W tD7gMZhQNNL6bwa6FS3F6G2Nt4tMV+StpBxzA92JCoGTpw15bcgT0eLx31NpIGU5 pHejNj4HIYHssBKtGDO/Cemp3ghG1+lg/cYS1XvYp6QyP3vXc6XO9aX8rHme0Voa XnaPoTm1+2Dj2QtpxaM/KXzxV1fFK3aDQqvBkS01cRhptH58yea0LU7l/TOaItKJ zTEAaaLS98pOMi9CfqTCaaJOeF31wH7bWQF3I0Wru7PBfbhJJ5Zk3lWanV2wOMoY EdKxV2nWt9IwNnvrA/+yfs4ePhlW0j6Hg0UMHX7MeVbVSlCqZOJyNXJ1xTcQvc2z bgSG/d65c2GEIruDl5qf =ybC6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Thu_Jul__4_14:24:48_2013-1--