From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 17:42:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF82106566B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [46.4.40.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D0C8FC18 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:8870:d54b:33e8:55b2]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B31A54AC2D; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:42:28 +0400 (MSK) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:42:25 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <686419050.20120821214225@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Ian Lepore In-Reply-To: <1345570590.27688.367.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> References: <20120821095527.GA33206@hell.ukr.net> <67977762.20120821154035@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1959717636.20120821155308@serebryakov.spb.ru> <201208210934.31484.jhb@freebsd.org> <1049151425.20120821190433@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1345562163.27688.347.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <709115163.20120821192652@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1345564507.27688.354.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <1409150425.20120821210152@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1345570590.27688.367.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: r239356: does it mean, that synchronous dhcp and dhcplcinet with disabled devd gone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:42:30 -0000 Hello, Ian. You wrote 21 =D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=B3=D1=83=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0 2012 =D0=B3., 21:36= :30: IL> I think it's funny how people have this knee-jerk reaction against C++ IL> apps. The devd executable is not exactly an example of bloatware: 374k IL> statically linked (so it already includes this "C++ runtime" that you IL> think is large). We routinely deploy embedded systems that use apps IL> written exclusively in C++, on systems that only have 32 or 64mb of ram. IL> We've been doing so since the days when the biggest compact flash card IL> you could buy was 64mb. BTW, typical MIPS SoC-based router has only 16MiB of flash. And, yes, FreeBSD doesn't fit well in this size now, but why add another mandatory program, only role of which is to monitor network cable and re-run the same program every time? --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov