From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 9 08:13:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF73D16A402 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-3-125.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.3.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3153F13C491 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l198DYeS001377; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:13:34 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l198DX79001376; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:13:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:13:33 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: vistua@sdf.lonestar.org Message-ID: <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:13:36 -0000 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2007-Feb-08 17:16:23 -0500, John Walthall wrote: >functionally obsolete. User PPP provides better service, and several >tangible design benefits. User PPP is very easy to use, Kernel PPP is not. Actually, kernel PPP has one significant (at least theoretical) advantage over user ppp: Network data is not pushed through the kernel/userland interface an additional two times. This is irrelevant for low-speed modem interfaces but could be significant for PPPoE on high-speed broadband. Keep in mind that a firewall host is likely to be a slow box - either a pensioned-off desktop or a mini-ITX style system. >FreeBSD is NOT Linux, and SHOULD NOT attempt to model it. FreeBSD is BSD >UNIX! Isn't that the WHOLE POINT (pardon my shouting) for our existence? I'm not sure I see where Linux comes into this. Looking back into history, it seems that both ppp(4) and ppp(8) arrived fairly close together. It appears that ppp(4) was a port of the portable ppp-2.2 code - the same code as used in SunOS AFAIR. --=20 Peter Jeremy --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFzC0t/opHv/APuIcRAo4nAJ45atKFIw/isAEn0cuSHhiu3+pYQgCdF7kO sznULuEfPqjgQ9Wn8lBUg7Q= =mviB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU--