From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Oct 5 06:38:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC65CAF68EA for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 06:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EFC6AF for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 06:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B95ACAF68E8; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 06:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90A7AF68E7 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 06:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (prod2.absolight.net [79.143.243.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plouf.absolight.net", Issuer "CAcert Class 3 Root" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 540AD6AC; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 06:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from prod2.absolight.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9CBDCC4; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:38:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from atuin.in.mat.cc (48.196.7.109.rev.sfr.net [109.7.196.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by prod2.absolight.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9C7AFBDC9A; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:38:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: dependency explosions To: Julian Elischer , "ports@FreeBSD.org" References: <2df71272-7b98-ad73-650a-3ec70beb71d5@freebsd.org> <3b3f3e28-d759-d654-24c0-97fa5683837d@freebsd.org> From: Mathieu Arnold Organization: Absolight / The FreeBSD Foundation Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:38:28 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3b3f3e28-d759-d654-24c0-97fa5683837d@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AdJtPEqmWlUP157HOL3i7WK6WNrB2M4CL" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 06:38:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --AdJtPEqmWlUP157HOL3i7WK6WNrB2M4CL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="pI2xkChjI1nAETidJj9BfpBQXlTRfEDS8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Mathieu Arnold To: Julian Elischer , "ports@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: Subject: Re: dependency explosions References: <2df71272-7b98-ad73-650a-3ec70beb71d5@freebsd.org> <3b3f3e28-d759-d654-24c0-97fa5683837d@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <3b3f3e28-d759-d654-24c0-97fa5683837d@freebsd.org> --pI2xkChjI1nAETidJj9BfpBQXlTRfEDS8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 05/10/2016 =C3=A0 05:18, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit : > On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> Le 01/10/2016 =C3=A0 04:35, Julian Elischer a =C3=A9crit : >>> There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages. >> Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running >> make config. >> >>> Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming i= n >>> as a dependency, as >>> there is an increasing tendency to configure things with all the bell= s >>> and whistles. >> The bare minimum will never be the default. The default is what will >> fit most people, so that they can use our packages out of the box. >> > I didn't say it should be the default, I said it should be an easy to > request option, > (without using the config screen on each of 25000 ports) > e.g. setting PORTS_CONFIG_MINIMUM before making everything. > Most ports and packages are installed not because people want them, > but because they are forced to do so by dependencies. > Giving a way to reduce the number of unrequested packages, in a simple > way would be of great use to many many people Feel free to open PR/provide patches for ports which you think need to provide more options. --=20 Mathieu Arnold --pI2xkChjI1nAETidJj9BfpBQXlTRfEDS8-- --AdJtPEqmWlUP157HOL3i7WK6WNrB2M4CL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJX9J/lXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQzQUI2OTc4OUQyRUQxMjEwNjQ0MEJBNUIz QTQ1MTZGMzUxODNDRTQ4AAoJEDpFFvNRg85Ia5EQAJt8x+tU0/Nt8da0MxooBxiJ EoW39GHLCpOf103d8xLXnJkGqKDN/5MNHxXfQxYdEUoHjO3L/Z16BbONYnTcNV9Q rQi2dd3rXlOZKEC6ntBoiF2HgRTB2tuuVI3tKKwWHsK+yozcD/smgITf+WT/L9aH VzswuKMZQ2He4W6/n+yo5I8H6VnnEqs1Jwkz4d5Ct4epHm8K4gg2XC8Kbnuxuiqx cvaCr2DGHAVjxX/c5Bv/+n1rRu7nUrZUAVUafze26TykNmoE9/6ZdFkIvwNweQPo btbQOZndsUbKj0RWnGTxrwhNGVu6v41umdaaLoNaFvTMLj73Os5RoN0vQ1vx73lF pXbil4MCNXu9uAnEhKtsey7lAByGVUlyVjVFB4nuzfT6/hJkW0jyAxhf3I/6jd+F Zzh1ADABXRYyGvVM5nw02vayQcn2X5dl4CNodP7nciPwBRBo23weliuAIU3AopF1 dBGDjzlXk3HTi8Ex0OkNHPwpTeU/hmpfTAVU6ROUptCkw3rAzvwDSFLXmHavUc0P eYke3MO8srSJct2fInQiWoBr1B1TAcVPb91CWxbmTmG5MQs2F9TzLSmfS9gpoXJs l1TvMrJ8Ew8g6m9TPxZQMJd+WWwdOZSjRx1vcDQ8YwuaORFwVkP5MEQvSM7OYBH8 eqbEuBkbNIY0DczijhyW =9uZ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AdJtPEqmWlUP157HOL3i7WK6WNrB2M4CL--