From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 11 13: 5: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from brea.mc.mpls.visi.com (brea.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CD037B405; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by brea.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C422DDF85; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:04:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fBBL4xn08549; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:04:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hawkeyd) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:04:59 -0600 From: D J Hawkey Jr To: Nik Clayton Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tangent for discussion: FreeBSD performs worse that Linux Message-ID: <20011211150459.A8415@sheol.localdomain> Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com References: <20011209100855.A22942@sheol.localdomain> <20011209084620.V14858-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> <20011209111523.A23357@sheol.localdomain> <20011209175137.B13554@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20011209121703.A23726@sheol.localdomain> <20011210080032.A4215@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20011210152414.A1367@sheol.localdomain> <20011211191403.B82053@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011211191403.B82053@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 07:14:03PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Dec 11, at 07:14 PM, Nik Clayton wrote: > > I meant that any effort you put in is better than none. For example, if > you decide to start producing patches for 4.4 that bring in some > features from -stable (e.g., delayed acks) that's far better than you > not doing it at all. As others have also said. Yup. > Don't feel that because you can't do everything you want to do that you > shouldn't do any of it. If you get the ball rolling, and become known > as *the* place to go for extra patches, you'll find that other people > start sending you additional patches to include. Oh, no. I don't have a problem with starting small. I wasn't born 6'0", after all. I am rather hoping there's a bunch of packrats lurking in hacker@ that might mail me their backports. It'd make a better initial impression. I don't have any pretentions or aspirations of being "the place to go" for backports. If it happens, it happens. > Pretty soon we'll get bored of having people ask "Hey, why aren't these > patches in RELENG_4_4" (or whatever) and we'll corral you in to becoming > a committer so that you can make this an 'official' part of FreeBSD. Only if I get BSD daemon badges for my machines, a BSD sweatshirt or cap, and an "@freebsd.org" mail addy. :-) > > > > So far, I've made three patchfiles that can be applied to 4.2REL and 4.3REL. > > > > Not exactly the repertoire one would need to garner interest and momentum. > > > > > > It's a start. What's the URL? > > > > You're kidding, right? I only started thinking about doing this yesterday! > > The patches are sitting right here, in $(HOME)/projects. > > OK. Well, if you put them up on a web site, we can link to them. If > you can think of appropriate other places on the FreeBSD web site to > mention them then we can do that too. The page is half-built now. If freebsd.org wants to link to the page (or any other BSD sites, for that matter) that's OK with me. Linking to the individual patchfiles pro'lly isn't a good idea. For those that're interested (and have the time), it's at http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/freebsd-backports.html for review/critique. It's only a WIP at this point; please don't do anything to publicize it. I'll mail hackers@ again when it's done, for final review/ critique. > N Let the flaming begin! Dave -- ______________________ ______________________ \__________________ \ D. J. HAWKEY JR. / __________________/ \________________/\ hawkeyd@visi.com /\________________/ http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message