From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 18:13:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91290106564A; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:13:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE548FC13; Mon, 26 May 2008 18:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.local ([192.168.254.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4QHkbWZ096376; Mon, 26 May 2008 11:46:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <483AF77D.3030006@samsco.org> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:46:37 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ade Lovett References: <20080524111715.T64552@fledge.watson.org> <1211640498.1510.8.camel@localhost> <20080524165519.K9809@fledge.watson.org> <20080525105726.O39741@fledge.watson.org> <5D4AF8D7-88A7-4197-A0FE-7CA992EE5F96@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5D4AF8D7-88A7-4197-A0FE-7CA992EE5F96@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , current@freebsd.org, net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEAD UP: non-MPSAFE network drivers to be disabled (was: 8.0 network stack MPsafety goals (fwd)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:13:02 -0000 Ade Lovett wrote: > It's all well and good to be able to say that the current release of the > kernel supports hardware that hasn't been used, other than in > idiosyncratic situations (yes, ahc(4), I'm looking at you) for 5+ years, > but it seems that we have an opportunity here to break out the Danish > Ax[tm] in anger, and do some heavy-duty culling before 8.0-REL. > Why does this argument on hardware support keep on coming up? For christ sake, every year some yahoo speaks up and declares that he knows what hardware should stay and what should go, and every year that yahoo gets educated on how counterproductive that is to the project. I'll just skip to the end of the recording and say, "NO". Scott