From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 11 10:22:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA26898 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA26889 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id TAA03790 for FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:22:08 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01272; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:03:36 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19970311190336.HN58888@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:03:36 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcvt/132 columns References: <19970311020107.UK51160@uriah.heep.sax.de> <199703111736.KAA25534@phaeton.artisoft.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199703111736.KAA25534@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from Terry Lambert on Mar 11, 1997 10:36:04 -0700 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Terry Lambert wrote: > Again, which will FreeBSD *support* by default? Until I can CVSup the > piece down, it is unsupported. Ah, sorry, i've got your question wrong. I simply don't know. There has been a plea for GRUB one day, but no decision yet either. OTOH, if the ELF patches would still fit, and won't bloat the loader too much, _and_ i had an ELF-capable ld(1) around in the tree, it's perhaps a matter of an afternoon to commit them. > > However, perhaps John first needs to integrate > > his ELFkit into the regular tree. That's something like a > > prerequisite... > > John wanted to do this (his last posting about it in -current makes it > clear), but was facing opposition. Maybe, but that's no reason to at least establish the prerequisites. As long as our tools don't support ELF, we don't even need to discuss if and when we might make it our default format (or not). Having it in the tree is simply necessary first (where i don't wanna say that it should become the default output format by the same time, it should for sure remain optional first). As long as i can't create an ELF kernel at all, i'm not going to commit any changes to the bootloader. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)